How to Find y'(0) from an Integral Equation

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The problem involves finding the derivative y'(0) from an integral equation that includes two integrals. The subject area pertains to calculus, specifically the differentiation of integral expressions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the given integrals and the resulting expressions for y'(0). Questions arise regarding how to determine the value of y(0) to solve for y'(0).

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of not knowing y(0) and its effect on finding a numerical value for y'(0). Some guidance is offered regarding the differentiation process, but no consensus has been reached on how to proceed without additional information about y(0).

Contextual Notes

There is a noted constraint regarding the unknown value of y(0), which is critical for determining y'(0). Participants are questioning the assumptions related to the function y(x) and its behavior at x=0.

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Homework Statement



[tex]\int_{2}^{y(x)}e^{t^2+1}dt + \int_{x^2+3x}^{0}\frac{e^z}{1+z}=0[/tex]

I need so find [tex]y'(0)[/tex].


The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\int_{2}^{y(x)}e^{t^2+1}dt =y'(x) \cdot e^{y(x)^2+1}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\int_{x^2+3x}^{0}\frac{e^z}{1+z}=-\frac{e^{x^2+3x}}{x^2+3x+1}\cdot (2x+3)[/tex]

adding them and substituting x=0 yields:

[tex]y'(0) \cdot e^{y(0)^2+1} -3=0[/tex]

but how can i find y'(0) from them equation?
 
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PhMichael said:

Homework Statement



[tex]\int_{2}^{y(x)}e^{t^2+1}dt + \int_{x^2+3x}^{0}\frac{e^z}{1+z}=0[/tex]

I need so find [tex]y'(0)[/tex].

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\int_{2}^{y(x)}e^{t^2+1}dt =y'(x) \cdot e^{y(x)^2+1}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\int_{x^2+3x}^{0}\frac{e^z}{1+z}=-\frac{e^{x^2+3x}}{x^2+3x+1}\cdot (2x+3)[/tex]

adding them and substituting x=0 yields:

[tex]y'(0) \cdot e^{y(0)^2+1} -3=0[/tex]

but how can i find y'(0) from them equation?
[tex]y'(x)= \frac{d}{dx}\int_{2}^{y(x)}e^{t^2+1}dt + \frac{d}{dx}\int_{x^2+3x}^{0}\frac{e^z}{1+z}[/tex]

Go with solving...

[tex]y'(0) = y'(0) \cdot e^{y(0)^2+1} -3[/tex]

[tex]y'(0) =\frac{-3}{1-e^{y(0)^2+1}}[/tex]

That's it.
 
but I need to find a number, not an expression involving y(0). how can y(0) be found?
 
You don't know y(x), so you can't know y'(0).
 

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