How to get to a PhD in Applied Physics ?

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The discussion revolves around the pathway to obtaining a PhD in applied physics, particularly from the perspective of an undergraduate student currently pursuing a double major in Computer Science and Engineering Science and Mechanics. The participant expresses uncertainty about the suitability of their current major in relation to their goals in physics and computer modeling.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to transition from Engineering Science and Mechanics (ESM) to a physics major due to a stronger interest in theoretical physics compared to engineering applications.
  • Another participant suggests that a physics major is generally required for graduate programs in physics, emphasizing the importance of courses in Modern Physics, optics, and Quantum Mechanics.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that a degree in Computer Science may not be necessary for programming and building models/simulations in physics.
  • The original poster clarifies that their ESM major includes several physics classes, but they are concerned about whether this path will adequately prepare them for a PhD in applied physics.
  • There is a mention of the commonality of transitioning from ESM to applied physics, though the original poster is uncertain about this possibility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of a physics major for pursuing a PhD in applied physics, with some emphasizing its importance while others suggest alternatives. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of specific physics courses for graduate school preparation, but there is uncertainty about the adequacy of the ESM curriculum in meeting these requirements. The discussion also reflects varying perspectives on the relevance of a Computer Science degree in the context of applied physics.

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Hey everyone! I've spent a lot of time checking out various posts through this site but I'm definitely in need of some guidance right now so I figured I'd ask a question of my own.

Basically I'm an undergrad (sophomore) right now, and I'm pretty positive I want to work my way up to an eventual doctorate in applied physics. I love programming and I'm hoping to structure my career around computer modeling and simulation of physical systems.

My problem is I'm not really sure what to do as an undergrad to get there. Right now I'm pursuing a double major in Computer Science (CS) and Engineering Science and Mechanics (ESM). I chose ESM because it seemed very similar to applied physics and I loved the research going on in the department (I'm at Virginia Tech in case anyone cares).

Lately I've been questioning my decision of ESM. While I love the department, I'm not as fond of the classes. Most of the students are engineers more interested in solving the problem than understanding the physics, and I have to take about 14 credits of fluid mechanics and 12 credits of deformations that just don't interest me the way Electromagnetic Theory and Quantum Mechanics do. However the ESM dept at VT is very well regarded and does a lot of phenomenal research.

So, is it time I left ESM for a physics major?
 
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I can't really help you specifically with your end goal.. but I would say that most of the engineers that I'm in classes with (I'm a physics major) are just like you've described. They're more into JUST the application, rather than understanding the theory. From what my physics advisor has told me, going to grad school in ANY physics based program, pretty much requires a physics major.

I could be wrong, but I don't think you'll take classes in Modern Physics/optics and QM as an ESM major, and those are 100% necessary for a physics grad program.

I too went around a bit, I was a physics major, then a mathematics major, but now I'm back to physics... and it's amazing.

I'm, similarly, VERY interested in understanding the theory, rather than just knowing how to use it... and physics is the major for me.

For what you want to do, my intuition says that CS + Physics would be the perfect combo, although you may want to wait for someone with more experience in that type of a field to comment on it.

just my 2 cents :)
 
If you want a PhD in physics, of any stripe, the best preparation is an undergraduate degree in physics.
 
You don't really need a degree in CS for programming and building models/simulations.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. Just to clarify a few things, the way I'm setting up my ESM major it has a pretty good number of physics classes in it. I'm taking Electromagnetic Theory, Intro to Quantum Theory, Intro to Relativity, etc. Just not as much of those as I could be. And I definitely want to do CS in addition to whatever else because I love programming and I have enough extra credits that I would be taking like 12 credit hr semesters without a double major.

Also I thought it was common for people to go into applied physics from ESM, but I'll definitely look into that more to be sure. I hadn't even considered that it might not be an option.
 

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