How to go to school while working full time?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of pursuing a degree in physics while working full-time, particularly in the context of personal struggles, financial constraints, and previous educational experiences. Participants explore various pathways and strategies for balancing work and education.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a strong desire to return to school to study physics, citing a passion for mathematics and science, but feels overwhelmed by personal circumstances, including financial difficulties and past educational struggles.
  • Several participants inquire about the specific educational goals, such as whether the individual aims for a BS, MS, or PhD, and the motivations behind wanting to return to school.
  • There are suggestions to consider starting with night classes or part-time courses to ease into the educational environment and assess interest in physics more deeply.
  • Some participants highlight the potential benefits of exploring other career options, such as programming, which may offer better job prospects compared to physics.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of Amazon providing tuition reimbursement, prompting discussions about employer support for education.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulties of balancing work and school, especially given the participant's previous struggles with ADD and OCD, and the need for a long-term plan to transition into full-time education.
  • There is acknowledgment of the importance of addressing past challenges in education and the potential for improved circumstances now that the participant can apply for financial aid independently.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of careful planning and consideration of personal circumstances when returning to school. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the feasibility of pursuing physics versus other career paths, and the discussion remains unresolved on the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various personal challenges, including financial constraints, mental health issues, and previous educational experiences, which may impact the ability to successfully balance work and school. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on how to navigate these complexities.

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How do I go to school while working full time? I have defaulted on my student loans from when I tried to go to school the first time. I'll be 26 in December, I haven't been to school in a long time, I am a female working in a amazon warehouse. I don't have a car, I can't drive, I ride my bike everywhere when I don't have a ride, I have ADD, I don't have hardly any money, I can hardly pay for rent, I've been homeless two times, I got no support from my abusive dad, I have no idea what to do. I want to major in physics. Ever sense I have graduated from high school I wanted to go to college. I have such a passion for mathematics and science. But in lost. I am stuck working at a job that I hate and can hardly pay my rent. I feel like there is no way out of these chains that was put around my neck. I don't know if I can pull off going back to school, working full time. My tablet is starting to malfunction. So I'll end it here. I just want to go back to school and graduate before my brain goes away.
 
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What do you want to study and how far do you want to go? BS, MS, or PhD?

Why do you want to go to school again? Is it to escape your work environment? or is there another reason?
 
jedishrfu said:
What do you want to study and how far do you want to go? BS, MS, or PhD?

Why do you want to go to school again? Is it to escape your work environment? or is there another reason?
I would like to do it to escape my work environment. But I also just want to do something I enjoy. I'm going to work most of my life and I want to do something I enjoy and is mentally stimulating. I also would like to earn enough money so I won't struggle to pay the rent. I want to start out with a bs. I would perfer to work towards a ms. I don't know if I can pull off a PhD.
 
In what field?

Oh okay, I see its Physics.
 
Will Amazon pay for taking a course at a time? Some employers offer that benefit.

I found this online:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshber...ram-highlights-need-for-employee-development/

You need to really think through this as much as you like physics and science would you consider other careers like programming or something else? Its much harder to get a job in physics than it is in computer science. However, a lot of people are entering the CS field too so it will still be difficult.
 
It might help to try to think of things from a long term perspective.

First, rather than jump into school full time, one option might be to take a night school class or two to start off with. Physics is one of those subjects that can be romanticized though popular science books. But when you get down to the number crunching it's a different animal. Starting out with a single course could let you decide if this is really something you want to pursue for an education or just something you enjoy reading about.

Second, you'll have to figure out why you struggled with school the first time. Was it the ADD? Was it something else? What's different this time around that will allow you to be successful.

Finally, another idea might be to come up with a two or three year plan that will put you in a good position to attend school full time. The job you have now isn't cutting it. So look for something else that pays more. You might need to invest in some short term training that will get you into a job in the next six months or a year that's better than what you currently have. This might allow you to cut down your work hours so you can concentrate on school. You could also save up to pay for tuition ahead of time.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Will Amazon pay for taking a course at a time? Some employers offer that benefit.

I found this online:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshber...ram-highlights-need-for-employee-development/

You need to really think through this as much as you like physics and science would you consider other careers like programming or something else? Its much harder to get a job in physics than it is in computer science. However, a lot of people are entering the CS field too so it will still be difficult.
Thanks. That was really helpful! Will ask my managers.
 
Choppy said:
It might help to try to think of things from a long term perspective.

First, rather than jump into school full time, one option might be to take a night school class or two to start off with. Physics is one of those subjects that can be romanticized though popular science books. But when you get down to the number crunching it's a different animal. Starting out with a single course could let you decide if this is really something you want to pursue for an education or just something you enjoy reading about.

Second, you'll have to figure out why you struggled with school the first time. Was it the ADD? Was it something else? What's different this time around that will allow you to be successful.

Finally, another idea might be to come up with a two or three year plan that will put you in a good position to attend school full time. The job you have now isn't cutting it. So look for something else that pays more. You might need to invest in some short term training that will get you into a job in the next six months or a year that's better than what you currently have. This might allow you to cut down your work hours so you can concentrate on school. You could also save up to pay for tuition ahead of time.

I struggled the first time for multiple reasons. My ADD was my biggest issue. I am taking medicine for that now so hopefully it will be different. I also struggle with severe ocd. I am still working on that. I also couldn't go back to school when I was younger sense my dad hated driving me to school. Sense I am over 24 I can now apply for financial aid without their help. I do want to get into physics. I have studied some mathematics on my own, and have studied from real college physics textbooks. I have some idea what I'm getting into. I know I have only had a small taste of it though. Specifically I'll like to study nuclear physics bug I know over the years I might change my mind. Thank you for your reply.
 
Choppy said:
It might help to try to think of things from a long term perspective.

First, rather than jump into school full time, one option might be to take a night school class or two to start off with. Physics is one of those subjects that can be romanticized though popular science books. But when you get down to the number crunching it's a different animal. Starting out with a single course could let you decide if this is really something you want to pursue for an education or just something you enjoy reading about.

Second, you'll have to figure out why you struggled with school the first time. Was it the ADD? Was it something else? What's different this time around that will allow you to be successful.

Finally, another idea might be to come up with a two or three year plan that will put you in a good position to attend school full time. The job you have now isn't cutting it. So look for something else that pays more. You might need to invest in some short term training that will get you into a job in the next six months or a year that's better than what you currently have. This might allow you to cut down your work hours so you can concentrate on school. You could also save up to pay for tuition ahead of time.
That is a good idea. I guess I could look into some short term training. Thank you for your reply.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Will Amazon pay for taking a course at a time? Some employers offer that benefit.

I found this online:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshber...ram-highlights-need-for-employee-development/

You need to really think through this as much as you like physics and science would you consider other careers like programming or something else? Its much harder to get a job in physics than it is in computer science. However, a lot of people are entering the CS field too so it will still be difficult.
I just clicked on the link. That was very helpful. I am DEFINITELY going to talk to one of my managers about this.
 
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Another good resource is Mathispower4u.com with its large collection of 10 minute videos on all of high school math upto freshman/sophomore math in college. Pretty much what you need for undergraduate physics.

It would be good to go over these videos so you're prepared when you do get to school.

Also Khan's Academy has videos on both math and physics so check them out too.

Micromass has some insight articles on this site that talk about math self-study and Zapperz has an excellent set of articles on the steps to follow from high school to graduate school and beyond to become a PhD physicist. You might as well shoot high.

Also a lot of folks start in a community college, keep up their grades and then apply to a four year school that should keep your finances in check.

You should still look into financial aid. You're not the only student who has paused a while in their schooling and then wanted to go back.
 

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