How to graph 5 or more variables at once?

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of graphing five or more variables simultaneously. Participants explore various methods and concepts related to visualizing multiple dimensions in data representation, including theoretical limitations and creative solutions.

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  • One participant questions the feasibility of plotting five variables on a single graph, suggesting that each variable requires a separate dimension and noting the limitation of having only four dimensions available (three spatial and one temporal).
  • Another participant proposes using hue and saturation in graphs to represent additional variables, referencing examples such as plots of Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) fluctuations.
  • A different participant acknowledges the possibility of representing three variables in a 2D space using a ternary graph, but raises concerns about how to graph an equation with five variables while showing all possible values.
  • One participant cites Charles Minard's historical graph as an example of effectively displaying five variables (position, direction, time, and temperature) on a single map, suggesting that innovative approaches can overcome dimensional limitations.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility and methods of graphing five or more variables, indicating that multiple competing ideas and approaches remain unresolved.

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The discussion highlights limitations related to dimensionality in data visualization and the need for creative solutions, but does not resolve the mathematical or theoretical challenges involved.

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This discussion may be of interest to those involved in data visualization, statistics, and anyone seeking innovative methods for representing complex datasets.

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Hi there

For quite some time now, I've been wondering if/how it would be possible to plot 5 or more variables on a single graph. If we have 2 variables we can make a simple 2D graph, if we have 3 variables we can make a 3D graph and if we have 4 variables we can make a 3D graph that changes in time (a video). Now, what if we want to plot 5 variables? As I understand it, each variable requires a whole dimension, and since we only have 4 dimensions at our disposal (3 spatial and one temporal) it looks to me that we can't have 5 variables plotted at once, due to the limitation of the number of dimensions of the universe we live, unless we made infinite animated graphs, each one to illustrate one value of our 5th variable.

So, how do we solve this problem? Or will we have to accept that we can't possibly plot all possible values for 5 variables at once?

Thanks in advance
 
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How about using the Hue and Saturation of the graph to represent another variable or two? (For example, see any plot of the CMB fluctuations)
 
Well, yeah, like in a ternary graph we can in fact represent 3 variables in a 2D space, but that's because they have to sum up to 100%

Suppose a equation with 5 variables, how could we possibly graph it, showing all values that al variables can assume?
 
Sometimes called "the best statistical graph ever drawn", Charles Minard's graph shows the position, and direction of Napolean's army advancing on and retreating from Moscow in 1812 as a function of time and gives the air temperature at each time. Counting position as two variables, that is a total of 5 variables on one map.

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