How to integrate (x² - 1)/(x⁴ + 1)
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Jameson
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Hmmm... stupid plus sign!
I did this on an online integrator and got the difference of two logs, which would make me think partial fractions, although in this case that would deal with complex numbers.
I did this on an online integrator and got the difference of two logs, which would make me think partial fractions, although in this case that would deal with complex numbers.
Jameson
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That's it. The answer online used that same form.
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To see how Cyclovenom got that, if you let y= x2, x4+ 1 becomes y2+ 1. The roots to y2+ 1= 0 are y= +/- i. That means we have y= x2= i so that [tex]x= \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i)[/tex] and [tex]x= -\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i)[/tex]. We also have y= x2= -i so that
[tex]x= \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i)[/tex] and [tex]x= -\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i)[/tex], the four complex roots of x4+ 1= 0. That tells us that x4+ 1 factors as [tex](x-\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))(x+\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))(x-\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))(x+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))[/tex].
We can rearrange the factors as [tex](x-\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))(x-\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))(x+\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))))(x+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))[/tex] to get the two real factors Cyclovenom gives.
[tex]x= \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i)[/tex] and [tex]x= -\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i)[/tex], the four complex roots of x4+ 1= 0. That tells us that x4+ 1 factors as [tex](x-\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))(x+\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))(x-\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))(x+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))[/tex].
We can rearrange the factors as [tex](x-\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))(x-\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))(x+\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))))(x+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))[/tex] to get the two real factors Cyclovenom gives.
jdavel
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HallsofIvy said:To see how Cyclovenom got that, if you let y= x2, x4+ 1 becomes y2+ 1. The roots to y2+ 1= 0 are y= +/- i. That means we have y= x2= i so that [tex]x= \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i)[/tex] and [tex]x= -\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i)[/tex]. We also have y= x2= -i so that
[tex]x= \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i)[/tex] and [tex]x= -\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i)[/tex], the four complex roots of x4+ 1= 0. That tells us that x4+ 1 factors as [tex](x-\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))(x+\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))(x-\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))(x+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))[/tex].
We can rearrange the factors as [tex](x-\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))(x-\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))(x+\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+i))))(x+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1- i))[/tex] to get the two real factors Cyclovenom gives.
Or you can just say that
x^4 + 1 = (x^2 +/- ax +/- 1)(x^2 -/+ ax +/- 1)
and in a few tries you get that a = sqrt(2).
Trial and error isn't elegant, but in this case it's a lot faster.
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How about that
[tex]x^{4}+1=x^{4}+2x^{2}+1-2x^{2}=\left(x^{2}+1\right)^{2}-\left(\sqrt{2}x\right)^{2}[/tex]
and then use the square difference formula...?
Daniel.
[tex]x^{4}+1=x^{4}+2x^{2}+1-2x^{2}=\left(x^{2}+1\right)^{2}-\left(\sqrt{2}x\right)^{2}[/tex]
and then use the square difference formula...?
Daniel.
jdavel
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dextercioby said:How about that
[tex]x^{4}+1=x^{4}+2x^{2}+1-2x^{2}=\left(x^{2}+1\right)^{2}-\left(\sqrt{2}x\right)^{2}[/tex]
and then use the square difference formula...?
Daniel.
Daniel,
Very elegant and very fast. As usual, you win!
jdl
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To see how Cyclovenom got that, if you let y= x2, x4+ 1 becomes y2+ 1. The roots to y2+ 1= 0 are y= +/- i. That means we have y= x2= i so that and . We also have y= x2= -i so that
and , the four complex roots of x4+ 1= 0. That tells us that x4+ 1 factors as .
We can rearrange the factors as to get the two real factors Cyclovenom gives.
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I'm not quite sure what you did here. Can you or anyone else here point out where I might learn the details of this? References, such as texts, online sites, the theorems, title of the subject, or even a brief explanation.
SphericalStrife
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could you use u-substition to find the answer too?
Nylex
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SphericalStrife said:could you use u-substition to find the answer too?
Nope, at least it doesn't look like it.
bblueblob
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If you take the next two numbers in this sequence and multiply them together, what number will you get?
594, 487, 566, 493, 310, 447, ____, ____
594, 487, 566, 493, 310, 447, ____, ____
Jameson
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Good try. You've already made a threadt for this topic. Don't double post. It makes people mad here and it's against the rules.
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