How To Integrate 1/[sqrt (x^2 + 3x + 2)] dx?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2 + 3x + 2}} dx##, which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically focusing on integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore various methods for integrating the function, including completing the square, trigonometric substitution, and Euler substitutions. Some participants question the correctness of completing the square and the implications of the resulting form for integration.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and suggestions for approaches without reaching a consensus on a single method. Some guidance has been offered regarding completing the square and potential substitutions, but no definitive steps have been agreed upon.

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Participants express difficulty in finding resources on completing the square and discuss the implications of different algebraic manipulations. There is also mention of homework rules that restrict providing complete solutions, emphasizing the focus on guidance and exploration.

  • #31
Take a break and try again later with fresh eyes.
 
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  • #32
vela said:
There's a less tricky way to integrate that.
$$\int \sec \theta\,d\theta = \int \frac 1{\cos \theta}\,d\theta = \int \frac {\cos\theta}{\cos^2 \theta}\,d\theta = \int \frac {\cos\theta}{1-\sin^2 \theta}\,d\theta$$ then use ##u=\sin\theta##.
Using ##\cosh## is about a hundred million time better. If you'll excuse the hyperbole!
 
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  • #33
PeroK said:
Using ##\cosh## is about a hundred million time better. If you'll excuse the hyperbole!

How do you use ##\cosh##? Please show me an example.
 
  • #34
askor said:
How do you use ##\cosh##? Please show me an example.
Have the hyperbolic trig functions been presented to you, yet? If not, an example probably won't make much sense.
 
  • #35
PeroK said:
If you'll excuse the hyperbole!

I saw what you did there.
 
  • #36
and even what @PeroK presented in post 12 takes a little algebra to compute, starting with ## x=\cosh{u}=\frac{e^u+e^{-u}}{2} ##.
 
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  • #37
I only know the very basic properties of hyperbolic function such as:

##\sinh x = \frac{e^x - e^{-x}}{2}##

and

##\cosh x = \frac{e^x + e^{-x}}{2}##

But I don't know how to use it in technique of integration.
 
  • #38
askor said:
I only know the very basic properties of hyperbolic function such as:

##\sinh x = \frac{e^x - e^{-x}}{2}##

and

##\cosh x = \frac{e^x + e^{-x}}{2}##

But I don't know how to use it in technique of integration.
Using the above definitions what are the derivatives of ##\sinh x## and ##\cosh x##?

What is ##\cosh^2 x## in terms of ##\sinh^2 x##?

In terms of integration, you use them the same way you use the trig functions, by substitution. E.g.:
$$x = \cosh u, \ \ dx = \frac{d}{du} (\cosh u) du$$
 
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askor said:
I only know the very basic properties of hyperbolic function such as:

##\sinh x = \frac{e^x - e^{-x}}{2}##

and

##\cosh x = \frac{e^x + e^{-x}}{2}##

But I don't know how to use it in technique of integration.
I think finding ##dx## helps so you need to find the derivative of ##\cosh x##. I learned it from a table of derivatives and integrals, which contained also ##\cosh x##.
 
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askor said:
How do you integrate ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2 + 3x + 2}} dx##?

I had tried using ##u = x^2 + 3x + 2## and trigonometry substitution but failed.

Please give me some clues and hints.

Thank you

mentor note: moved from a non-homework to here hence no template.
Wolfram Alpha
 
  • #41
askor said:
##\int \frac{du}{1 - u^2}##
The hyperbolic trig approach is neater, but to proceed with the above form use partial fractions.
 
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  • #42
haruspex said:
The hyperbolic trig approach is neater, but to proceed with the above form use partial fractions.
With you have there, why couldn’t a second substitution be made, using ##1 - sin^2w = cos^2w##?

I’m sure I’m missing something.
 
  • #43
Grasshopper said:
With you have there, why couldn’t a second substitution be made, using ##1 - sin^2w = cos^2w##?

I’m sure I’m missing something.
That would be going back to what we had earlier, integrating sec.
Do you see how to solve it using partial fractions?
 
  • #44
haruspex said:
That would be going back to what we had earlier, integrating sec.
Do you see how to solve it using partial fractions?
Wait, lol sorry I see now. It was late I was not thinking clearly. But yeah this is one of the easier partial fractions.
 
  • #45
Grasshopper said:
Wait, lol sorry I see now. It was late I was not thinking clearly. But yeah this is one of the easier partial fractions.
what is the final solution? did you really get it?
 

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