How to Label Spin Hamiltonian by Ms in EPR Experiments?

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The discussion revolves around the labeling of the spin Hamiltonian in the context of Electron Paramagnetic Resonance (EPR) experiments, specifically focusing on the representation of the Hamiltonian using the magnetic quantum number Ms for a spin value of S=5/2.

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Main Points Raised

  • Rajini expresses frustration about writing the spin Hamiltonian in the |5/2, Ms> representation and seeks assistance.
  • Some participants point out potential errors in Rajini's expression for the Hamiltonian, noting that S_y^2 - S_y^2 is zero and suggesting the last term may be a vector.
  • One participant suggests starting with the representation of S_z in the basis and then writing the raising (S_+) and lowering (S_-) operators.
  • Rajini acknowledges the hint received and indicates progress towards solving the problem, particularly in relation to working with larger matrices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correct formulation of the Hamiltonian, as participants point out errors and suggest different approaches. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific labeling of the spin Hamiltonian by Ms.

Contextual Notes

Participants have noted potential typos and errors in the Hamiltonian expression, but the implications of these corrections and how they affect the overall problem remain unclear.

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dear members,
My problem is...
suppose take the spin Hamiltonian Hham=D[Sz2 -S(S+1)/3 +(E/D)(Sy2-Sy2)] +Hi[tex]\vec{S}[/tex] (most often in EPR experiments, etc).
here external magnetic field Hamiltonian Hi = [tex]\beta[/tex]giBiext and i =x, y and z. Also gx=gy=gz=2 and the external magnetic field is parallel/along z-axis. Ms is the magnetic quantum number.
What i don't know.. Using S=5/2 and writing down in the |5/2,Ms> representation yields a matrix (from the above spin Hamiltonian)...I really don't know how to write it.(may be in other words how to label spin Hamiltonian by Ms )..But i have the solution...Can anyone help me?? I am really frustrated about this problem..
advance thanks for helping me..
Rajini
 
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Rajini said:
dear members,
My problem is...
suppose take the spin Hamiltonian Hham=D[Sz2 -S(S+1)/3 +(E/D)(Sy2-Sy2)] +Hi[tex]\vec{S}[/tex] (most often in EPR experiments, etc).
here external magnetic field Hamiltonian Hi = [tex]\beta[/tex]giBiext and i =x, y and z. Also gx=gy=gz=2 and the external magnetic field is parallel/along z-axis. Ms is the magnetic quantum number.
What i don't know.. Using S=5/2 and writing down in the |5/2,Ms> representation yields a matrix (from the above spin Hamiltonian)...I really don't know how to write it.(may be in other words how to label spin Hamiltonian by Ms )..But i have the solution...Can anyone help me?? I am really frustrated about this problem..
advance thanks for helping me..
Rajini

First, it looks like you have some typos in your expression for H_{ham}. E.g., S_y^2 - S_y^2 is just zero. Also, the last term appears to be a vector.

But, anyways, I think you should start by writing down what [itex]S_z[/itex] looks like in the basis. Then write what [itex]S_+[/itex] (the raising operator) looks like and then what [itex]S_-[/itex] looks like.
 
dear members,
My problem is...
suppose take the spin Hamiltonian Hham=D[Sz2 -S(S+1)/3 +(E/D)(Sx2-Sy2)] + [tex]\beta[/tex][tex]\vec{B}[/tex][tex]\tilde{g}[/tex][tex]\vec{S}[/tex] (most often in EPR experiments, etc).
here external magnetic field Hamiltonian Hi = [tex]\beta[/tex]giBiext and i =x, y and z. Also gx=gy=gz=2 and the external magnetic field is parallel/along z-axis. Ms is the magnetic quantum number.
What i don't know.. Using S=5/2 and writing down in the |5/2,Ms> representation yields a matrix (from the above spin Hamiltonian)...I really don't know how to write it.(may be in other words how to label spin Hamiltonian by Ms )..But i have the solution...Can anyone help me?? I am really frustrated about this problem..
advance thanks for helping me..
 
Hi olgran, I corrected my error..
thanks for replying
 
Hi Olgran, I got a hint from your reply..(S- and S+)...based on ur hint...i am on the way:- solving my problem..hopefully i can solve it..after working on big 6x6 matrices..
thanks
rajini
 

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