How to Measure Volume/Injection in a CRI Engine Injector Tester?

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The discussion centers around methods for measuring the volume of fuel injection in a Common Rail Injector (CRI) engine tester. Participants explore various techniques and considerations related to injector testing, including both practical and theoretical approaches.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests copying existing injector tester designs available on the market as a straightforward approach.
  • Another participant notes the lack of resources specifically addressing the measurement of fuel volume/injection in the context of carburetion testing.
  • A warning is provided regarding safety risks associated with handling diesel fuel and injectors, emphasizing the importance of safety precautions.
  • Several methods for measuring injector volume are proposed, including measuring exhaust temperatures for consistency, capturing spent fuel to measure volume after a set number of injections, and using a flow meter in a high-pressure supply line.
  • Specific types of flow meters are mentioned, such as thermal mass flow meters, ultrasonic Doppler flowmetry, and laser Doppler velocity measurement, each with potential applications in this context.
  • One participant raises a theoretical approach involving measuring explosive energy through piston displacement and calculating moles of combustible released, although this method is less directly related to practical measurement of injection volume.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of ideas and methods without reaching a consensus on the best approach to measure volume/injection in CRI engine injectors. Multiple competing views and techniques are presented, indicating an unresolved discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully explore the assumptions behind the proposed methods, and there are limitations regarding the applicability of certain techniques to specific injector designs or testing conditions.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in automotive engineering, specifically those working on fuel injection systems or injector testing methodologies, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello all. I have a project to make the injector tester for CRI engine. Any ideas how to measure volume / injection ?

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There are all sorts of injector testers on the market to buy and there all very simple in how they work. If i were you id copy there design and it shouldn't take to much time or money.
 
In the market generally is testing carburetion, but how to measure the volume/injection of fuel I have not found. But thanks for the advice.
 
Playing with injectors and common rail fittings can give parts of your body a diesel fluid injection. That will lead to local trauma and often a Clostridium infection.

Perhaps measure the exhaust temperatures. If they are all similar then injector volume is OK.
The alternative is to catch the spent fuel while counting 1000 injections and measure the volume.

If you inserted a flow meter in a high pressure CR supply adapter to one injector you could get a direct reading. There are a few ways I see to do this accurately.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_meter
Firstly; A low technology thermal mass flow meter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_meter#Thermal_mass_flow_meters
Secondly; Ultrasonic Doppler flowmetry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_Doppler_velocimetry
Thirdly; Laser Doppler Velocity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_meter#Laser_Doppler_flow_measurement
 
All else being equal, shouldn't you be able to measure the explosive energy (by the displacement behavior of the piston) of the fuel air mixture and using molar fractions calculate the amount of moles of combustible released into the chamber?
 

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