How to Normalize the Basic Wave Equation

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The discussion revolves around the normalization of the basic wave equation for a quantum mechanical particle, specifically the wave function \(\Psi(x,t) = Ae^{-a[(mx^{2}/\hbar)+it]}\). Participants explore the implications of normalization on the wave function and its expectation values, as well as related potential energy functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in normalizing the wave function and calculating expectation values.
  • Another participant suggests that \(\Psi^2\) leads to a Gaussian integral, which can be solved by completing the square in the exponent.
  • A participant proposes a value for normalization constant \(A\) as \(A = \sqrt[4]{\frac{2am}{\hbar\pi}}e^{ait}\), but expresses discomfort with their answer.
  • Several participants note the importance of retaining the time component in the wave function during normalization, suggesting that the full wave function should include terms that account for time dependence.
  • One participant challenges the correctness of the proposed normalization constant \(A\), stating that the time-dependent term cancels out when calculating \(|A|^2\) and suggesting that \(A\) should simply be \(\left(2ma/\pi\hbar\right)^{1/4}\).
  • Another participant reflects on their own mistake in squaring the wave function without taking the modulus first.
  • A participant introduces a potential energy function \(V(x) = 2a^{2}mx^{2}\) and requests verification of its correctness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct form of the normalization constant \(A\) and the treatment of the time-dependent term in the wave function. There is no consensus on the final form of the wave function or the potential energy function.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need to consider the modulus of the wave function when calculating normalization, indicating potential limitations in the initial approaches discussed.

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This is a fairly simple question, but the first such question I have done. Inorder to check my work I was hoping someone could show me how to normalize the following.

[tex]\Psi(x,t) = Ae^{-a[(mx^{2}/\hbar)+it][/tex]
where m is the particles mass

And also that the expectation values of x and x2 would be.

Don't wory, this is not for a class, I am studying this on my own
 
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Psi^2 leads to a Gaussian integral, which is done by completing the square in the exponent.
<x> is zero bly symmetry.
<x^2>is found by integrating by parts.
 
After playing with this I found

[tex]A = \sqrt[4]{\frac{2am}{\hbar\pi}}*e^{ait}[/tex]

making

[tex]\Psi = \sqrt[4]{\frac{2am}{\hbar\pi}}*e^{-amx^{2}/\hbar}[/tex]

Can annyone confirm this for me because I am really uncomfortable with my answer.
 
that looks alright, but have you lost your time component along the way? when calculating [tex]\left|A\right|^{2}[/tex] the time-dependence drops off, but you need to be sure to attach your value for [tex]A[/tex] to the full wavefunction. i think it should look like this? [tex]\Psi\left(x,t\right)=\left(2ma/\pi\hbar\right)^{1/4}e^{-amx^{2}/\hbar}e^{-iat}[/tex]
 
tshafer said:
that looks alright, but have you lost your time component along the way? when calculating [tex]\left|A\right|^{2}[/tex] the time-dependence drops off, but you need to be sure to attach your value for [tex]A[/tex] to the full wavefunction. i think it should look like this? [tex]\Psi\left(x,t\right)=\left(2ma/\pi\hbar\right)^{1/4}e^{-amx^{2}/\hbar}e^{-iat}[/tex]

the only think was that [tex]e^{iat}[/tex] from the second part of A canceld with [tex]e^{-iat}[/tex] from the wave function, or is that wrong.
 
You would be correct, but technically you're [tex]A[/tex] is wrong. The [tex]e^{-iat}[/tex] term cancels with its conjugate in the process of calculating [tex]A[/tex] through normalization. [tex]A[/tex] should be just [tex]\left(2ma/\pi\hbar\right)^{1/4}[/tex]
 
tshafer said:
You would be correct, but technically you're [tex]A[/tex] is wrong. The [tex]e^{-iat}[/tex] term cancels with its conjugate in the process of calculating [tex]A[/tex] through normalization. [tex]A[/tex] should be just [tex]\left(2ma/\pi\hbar\right)^{1/4}[/tex]

Looking back my mistake was simply squaring the wave function without taking the modulus first
 
I was working with this a little more, and came up with a corisponding potential energy function of:

V(x) = [tex]2a^{2}mx^{2}[/tex]

Could anyone run it and verify that I have this right (My text has no answer key)?

Here is the wave function again.
[tex]\Psi(x,t) = Ae^{-a[(mx^{2}/\hbar)+it][/tex]
where m is the particles mass
 

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