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In summary, when substituting A=∇ and R=B into the identity ∇×(A×B)=A(∇.B)-B(∇⋅A)+ (B⋅∇)A-(A⋅∇)B, the terms -R(∇⋅∇) and (R⋅∇)∇ disappear because they are differential operators and they will be zero when they don't act on anything.
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I've got ∇×(∇×R)=∇(∇.R)-∇2R [call it eq.1]

However I have the identity ∇×(A×B)=A(∇.B)-B(∇⋅A)+ (B⋅∇)A-(A⋅∇)B [call it eq.2]

Substituting in A=∇ and R=B into eq.2 we get ∇×(∇×R)=∇(∇.R)-R(∇⋅∇)+ (R⋅∇)∇-(∇⋅∇)R

which i work out to be ∇×(∇×R)=∇(∇.R)-R(∇⋅∇)+ (R⋅∇)∇-∇2R

Basically I don't understand what happens to the two terms -R(∇⋅∇)+ (R⋅∇)∇ from eq.2 when we get to eq.1, why do they disappear?
 
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shedrick94 said:
Substituting in A=∇
Can't be done:$$ \vec A \times \vec B = - \vec B \times \vec A $$ but $$ \vec \nabla \times \vec A \ne - \vec A \times \vec \nabla $$the left hand side is a vector, the righthand side an operation
 
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The disappearing terms are differential operators. As long as they don't act on anything, they will be zero.
 
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DrDu said:
The disappearing terms are differential operators. As long as they don't act on anything, they will be zero.
Why is this though?
 
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basically then you might put a factor 1 behind the expression and ##\nabla 1=0##, but as I indicated in #2, the equals sign doesn't hold, just like ##{\delta f\over \delta x }\ne f{\delta 1\over x} = 0##
 

What is the curl of a vector?

The curl of a vector is a mathematical operation that describes the rotation or "curling" of a vector field. It is a vector quantity that represents the tendency of the vector field to rotate around a specific point.

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∇ × F = ( ∂Fz/∂y - ∂Fy/∂z ) i + ( ∂Fx/∂z - ∂Fz/∂x ) j + ( ∂Fy/∂x - ∂Fx/∂y ) k
where F is the vector field and ∇ is the del operator.

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