How to quickly survey an exoplanet before colonization?

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To quickly survey an exoplanet before colonization, the discussion emphasizes the need for contemporary technology to assess key factors like landscape, agriculture, and natural resources while acknowledging the limitations of time and resources. The importance of identifying waterways and stable geological zones is highlighted, as these will be crucial for establishing a colony. Concerns about potential risks, such as poisonous plants and unstable climates, are raised, alongside the necessity of ensuring the safety of colonists from local life forms. The feasibility of using satellites for rapid surveys is discussed, but the challenges of communication and the reliability of technology in a new environment are also noted. Ultimately, the conversation suggests that if no viable alternatives exist, the chosen planet may receive a default green light for colonization despite the risks involved.
  • #91
Czcibor said:
What about as motivating factor, that system does not provide pensions? Nothing personal, just gov has no money for that...

(Later, in constitution it would be stated that gov is not allowed to promise a retirement system that is not 100% financed from start)

That's modern thinking.
In a non-modern society kids are your pension. You raise them to take care of you in your old age.

Not specially. Humans would be here the limited resources, thus requiring proper care.

In the situation you laid out humans would not be limited because new humans could be teleported in at any time. If you want to make it out that they can't be then you have to explain adherence to a government system and taxation that no longer exists. The point of these colonies are to make money and in general do it through taxing/resources being sent back. If they get cut off then residents would expect not to be sending resources back and they would expect not to be taxed or taxed less. Likewise, continued taxing or increases leads to the higher likelihood of a revolt.

Anyways, I was just pointing out a way for a corporation to take advantage of the scenario to their benefit given the information you provided. I wouldn't do it, but there are some greedy people out there.

Anyway, I think that Russians live happily in Londongrad, so not sure to what extend this problem may be overestimated.

Just pointing out examples. French and English get along decently despite all the enmity between them.
 
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  • #92
Durakken said:
That's modern thinking.
In a non-modern society kids are your pension. You raise them to take care of you in your old age.
Know it, however stating that would be a unnecessarily unpopular policy. Instead merely demanding 100% prefunding of such programs, would sound just prudent, but in practice would mean killing almost all of such incentives.
In the situation you laid out humans would not be limited because new humans could be teleported in at any time. If you want to make it out that they can't be then you have to explain adherence to a government system and taxation that no longer exists. The point of these colonies are to make money and in general do it through taxing/resources being sent back. If they get cut off then residents would expect not to be sending resources back and they would expect not to be taxed or taxed less. Likewise, continued taxing or increases leads to the higher likelihood of a revolt.

Anyways, I was just pointing out a way for a corporation to take advantage of the scenario to their benefit given the information you provided. I wouldn't do it, but there are some greedy people out there.
I'm not sure whether I stated that explicitly - only short period of teleportation, after that - it fails. So such exploative business model would not work, because of running out of people too quickly.
 
  • #93
Thread reopened. Can members please remain civil else the thread will be closed again, likewise factual claims are expected to be backed up when questioned.
 

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