How to show G/Z(R(G)) is isomorphic to Aut(R(G))?

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The discussion focuses on proving that the quotient group ##G/Z(R(G))## is isomorphic to a subgroup of ##Aut(R(G))##, where ##R(G)## is defined as the product of the Layer ##E(G)## and the Fitting subgroup ##F(G)## of group ##G##. The participants emphasize the importance of the normality of these subgroups and suggest using the mapping defined in Exercise 3.4, which involves conjugate automorphisms. The conversation clarifies that ##Z(R(G))## represents the center of ##R(G)##, and the kernel of the natural mapping from ##G## to ##Aut(R(G))## is identified as the centralizer.

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I am working on this problem with lots and lots of nesting definitions like this following, and I have been trying to get help from here as well as http://www.quora.com/How-do-I-prove-G-Z-R-G-is-isomorphic-to-Aut-R-G , but none gave me complete help:

Show that ##G/Z(R(G))## is isomorphic to a subgroup of ##Aut(R(G))##.​

For your info, ##R(G)## is called the Radical of ##G##, defined as ##R(G) := E(G)F(G)##, where ##E(G)## is called the Layer of ##G##, and ##F(G)## is called the Fitting of ##G##. Long story short, it suffices (I think) to say that since both ##E(G)## and ##F(G)## are normal according to a lemma, therefore ##R(G)## is normal too.

And then the problem comes with a hint: Use Exercise 3.4. This exercise has the following mappings:

##\begin{align}
\alpha \ &: \ N_G(H) \to Aut(H), \quad g \mapsto \alpha_g \tag{1}\\
\text{where} \ \alpha_g \ &: \ H \to H, \quad h \mapsto h^g, \tag{2}
\end{align}##​

therefore I think that this hint is directing me to use conjugate automorphism.

I was thinking about letting ##\varphi : G/Z(R(G)) \to Aut(R(G))##, and thenstructuring this ##\varphi## into mappings like (1) and (2), so that at least I have a visual idea. But after getting limited responses from my earlier postings, I am not so sure that will be the right direction. Any help or hints would be very, very much appreciated.

Thank you for your time and help.
 
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Is N(H) supposed to be the normalizer, and Z(R(G)) supposed to be the center of R(G)?
 
MostlyHarmless said:
Is N(H) supposed to be the normalizer, and Z(R(G)) supposed to be the center of R(G)?
Yes, that is correct. ##Z## and ##N## stand for centralizer and normalizer. Thanks!
 
Wait, the center or the centralizer?

Either way, I'm not familiar with the Radical, but I would try proving that the map that they gave is an automorphism(replacing H with R(G), and then show that the G/(Z(R(G)) is isomorphic to N(R(G)).
 
MostlyHarmless said:
Wait, the center or the centralizer?

Either way, I'm not familiar with the Radical, but I would try proving that the map that they gave is an automorphism(replacing H with R(G), and then show that the G/(Z(R(G)) is isomorphic to N(R(G)).

Oops! I made careless typo. Center ##Z(G) ## have the elements of ##G## that commute with every element in ##G##.
 
Ah ok, well that's about as much as I can offer on this one. I would start by redfining that map with R(G) in place of H and prove that it is an automorphism.
 
First let's address the normality of the various subgroups. Even without knowing the definitions of ##E##, ##F##, and ##R##, it's a solid bet that all three are not only normal but characteristic subgroups. As Isaacs points out in his Algebra text, if a subgroup is prefixed with "the", then it's generally characteristic. E.g. the center of ##G##, the layer of ##G##, the radical of ##G##, the Fitting subgroup of ##G## are all characteristic subgroups of ##G##. (One can, of course, show this rigorously in each specific case.) Using this reasoning, ##Z(R(G))## is the center of ##R(G)##, which is the radical of ##G##, so ##Z(R(G))## is characteristic in ##R(G)##, which is characteristic in ##G##. So ##Z(R(G))## is normal in ##G## and ##G/Z(R(G))## is a group.

The natural mapping to consider is ##\phi : G \to Aut(R(G))## such that ##\phi(g) : R(G) \to R(G)## is conjugation by ##g##. This mapping makes sense because ##R(G) \lhd G##, so the restriction of conjugation to ##R(G)## is an automorphism of ##R(G)##. What is the kernel of ##\phi##? By definition, it is the set of all ##g\in G## such that ##\phi(g)## is the identity map on ##R(G)##. What does that mean in this case? (Hint: it's a centralizer.)

By the first isomorphism theorem, ##G/\text{ker}(\phi)## is isomorphic to ##\phi(G)##, which is a subgroup of ##Aut(R(G))##.

Now what's the relation between ##Z(R(G))## and ##\text{ker}(\phi)##?
 
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jbunniii said:
First let's address the normality of the various subgroups ...

I am posting this message just to acknowledge your response. Thank you. Give me sometime to digest and I will get back with you shortly. Thanks again as always.
 

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