How to show sequnce is divergent (math. induction)

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The discussion revolves around a recursively defined sequence, where the first term is \( a_1 = 2 \) and subsequent terms are given by \( a_{n+1} = \frac{1}{(a_n)^2} \). The original poster is tasked with determining the limiting behavior of this sequence, specifically questioning its divergence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster reflects on previous experiences with sequences that converge, contrasting them with the current decreasing sequence. They express confusion about proving divergence and seek clarification on methods to demonstrate this.
  • Participants discuss the calculation of the first few terms of the sequence and question the accuracy of these calculations, indicating a focus on understanding the sequence's behavior.
  • There is a suggestion to consider the oscillating nature of the sequence and its subsequences, which may converge to different limits.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the sequence's behavior. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of terms and the nature of divergence, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method for proving divergence.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the depth of exploration into the sequence's properties. There is an acknowledgment of potential mistakes in calculations that could affect the understanding of the sequence's behavior.

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Homework Statement



For the sequnce an defined recursively, I have to determine the limiting value, provided that it exists.
a1=2 and a(n+1) = 1/(an)^2 for all n

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The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, so I 've done problems like this but the a(n+1) was biggger than an and so the sequence was increasing and I used mathematical induction and boundness to show it converged. Then I founf the limit.
Now, though I'm having trouble with this sequence becasue it's a decreasing sequence and I know it diverges. How do I go about proving that? What method do I use? At what point is it realized that it diverges?
I'm just really lost :/

Thank you!
 
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sitia said:

Homework Statement



For the sequnce an defined recursively, I have to determine the limiting value, provided that it exists.
a1=2 and a(n+1) = 1/(an)^2 for all n

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, so I 've done problems like this but the a(n+1) was biggger than an and so the sequence was increasing and I used mathematical induction and boundness to show it converged. Then I founf the limit.
Now, though I'm having trouble with this sequence becasue it's a decreasing sequence and I know it diverges. How do I go about proving that? What method do I use? At what point is it realized that it diverges?
I'm just really lost :/

Thank you!
Have you written out the first several terms of the sequence?
 
I have...1/4, 1/16...etc
 
sitia said:
I have...1/4, 1/16...etc
a1 = 2
a2 = 1/(22) = 1/4
a3 = ?
Hint: It's not 1/16.
 
Isn't it 1/(2^2)^2
 
sitia said:
Isn't it 1/(2^2)^2
Not according to what you wrote in post 1.


sitia said:
a1=2 and a(n+1) = 1/(an)^2 for all n
 
sitia said:
Isn't it 1/(2^2)^2
"It", as in a3 is

[itex]\displaystyle a_3=\frac{1}{{a_2}^2}[/itex]
[itex]\displaystyle <br /> =\frac{1}{(1/4)^2}[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle =\frac{1}{1/16}[/itex]

[itex]= \underline{\ \ ?\ \ }[/itex]
 
sitia said:
Isn't it 1/(2^2)^2

SammyS said:
"It", as in a3 is

[itex]\displaystyle a_3=\frac{1}{{a_2}^2}[/itex]
[itex]\displaystyle <br /> =\frac{1}{(1/4)^2}[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle =\frac{1}{1/16}[/itex]

[itex]= \underline{\ \ ?\ \ }[/itex]

You shouldn't say "it" unless it is crystal clear what the antecedent is.
 
Oh wow, stupid mistake. Thanks!
So, do I need to show anything to show divergence or just state that it's going to zero and infinity..oscillating, so it's divergent?
 
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sitia said:
Oh wow, stupid mistake. Thanks!
So, do I need to show anything to show divergence or just state that it's going to zero and infinity..oscillating, so it's divergent?

Well there certainly are two subsequences that converge to 0 and diverge to infinity.
 

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