How to solve a 2nd order pde with constant a?

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order partial differential equation (PDE) of the form 16d²u/dxdy + du/dx + du/dy + au = 0, where 'a' is a constant. Participants are exploring various methods to approach this problem.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the PDE using substitutions involving exponential functions, but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their derived expressions. They question whether their method is appropriate or if there is a better approach. Other participants suggest using separation of variables by proposing a product solution of the form u(x,y) = s(x)t(y) and provide a rearranged form of the PDE for further analysis.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing alternative methods and clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the separation of variables approach, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method yet.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of the PDE and are considering various assumptions and methods without reaching a definitive solution. The original poster's uncertainty about their substitutions indicates potential gaps in understanding the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


I have a pde,
16d2u/dxdy + du/dx + du/dy + au = 0 where a is constant.


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I have tried to solve this pde using the substitutions x=e^t and y=e^s so t=ln(x) and s=ln(y) then finding
Du/dx= 1/x du/dt and du/dy= 1/y du/ds
For d2u/dxdy i am unsure if my answer is correct,
1/xy d2u/dsdt - 1/x du/dt - 1/y du/ds

When i substitute these into the pde i get 16/xy d2u/dsdt + au = 0
I could integrate this with respect to s and t but don't think that helps me.

Am i using the correct method here or is there a method that is better suited to my equation

Thank you for any help

 
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Try setting u(x,y) = s(x)t(y) and separating the equation.
 
Sorry, not sure i follow, what do you suggest i could set them as?
 
If you substitute u(x,y) = s(x)t(y) into your PDE, you'll obtain

16 (ds/dx)(dt/dy) + (ds/dx) t + s (dt/dy) + a s t = 0

Rearrange & factor:

(dt/dy)[16 (ds/dx) + s] = -t [(ds/dx) + a s]

Separate the variables:

(dt/dy) / t = -[(ds/dx) + s] / [16 (ds/dx ) + a s]

The left side is a function of x only & the right side is a function of y only. The only way that can be so is if both sides are equal and constant. So

(dt/dy) / t = C

-[(ds/dx) + s] / [16 (ds/dx + a s] = C

That leaves you with two linear ODEs. C is an eigenvalue that will be determined by the PDE's boundary conditions.

For more info, check out

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SeparationofVariables.html

or

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_variables
 
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