How to solve a complex equation using quadratic formula

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The discussion revolves around finding complex solutions to a specific equation involving both real and imaginary components. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the applicability of the quadratic formula in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants suggest converting the equation into a form involving real and imaginary parts, questioning the original poster's understanding of complex conjugates and their role in the solution process. There are inquiries about specific equations that could guide the solving technique.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing various methods and hints for approaching the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of the equation and the use of complex conjugates, but there is no explicit consensus on a single method or solution path.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between the variables and the need to simplify the equation further. The original poster is navigating through complex number concepts and the implications of their conjugates in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Find all complex solutions to the following equation:

3(x^2 + y^2) + (x - iy)^2 + 2(x + iy) = 0

Homework Equations



I want to use the quadratic formula, but not sure if it applies here.

The Attempt at a Solution



This is as far as I can get. What I would like is some idea as to what technique to solve this.
 
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I could give you two ways of solving this problem. I ask u the following questions first..

1. What is the solution to x + iy = 0, or say x+1 + i(y-1) = 0? If you have answered these correctly, then I guess you should go ahead and convert your problem to a

f(x, y) + i g(x,y) = 0 type, and solve it...2. Write z = x + iy. Thats one equation. Conjugate it. Thats another equation. Can u solve them together now??
 
praharmitra said:
If you have answered these correctly, then I guess you should go ahead and convert your problem to a

f(x, y) + i g(x,y) = 0 type, and solve it...

I don't understand this.

praharmitra said:
2. Write z = x + iy. Thats one equation. Conjugate it. Thats another equation. Can u solve them together now??

Are you suggesting that the complex conjugates are roots?

The equation I supplied was expanded where x + iy was originally z and x - iy was "zed bar".

Does anyone know a procedure to follow to solve this?
 
k, i'll simplify it slightly more for you...

For method 1.

I want you to use the formula (a+b)^2 and open up every bracket... then club together all real terms together, and all imaginary terms (with an i) together...

So, now do u get something like f(x,y) + i g(x,y) = 0 ? Can you tell me how to solve such a problem??

If no, then I'll just give one hint... (x+1) + i ( y-1) = 0 is of the above form with f(x,y) = x+1 and g(x,y) = y-1.

The only solution to the above is (-1,1). can u tell me why?
For method 2.

ok, this i will solve slightly so that i can explain clearly...

put x + iy = z. then x - iy = z*

The equation becomes...

3 z z* + (z*)^2 + 2 z = 0

Now conjugate the above equation. we get

3 z* z + z^2 + 2 z* = 0

You now have two equations with variables z and z*. Solve for them..

Hint - Subtract them
 

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