How to Solve an Elastic Collision of 3 Balls with Frictionless Motion?

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Homework Statement


A ball with an initial speed of v1 = 21.5 m/s collides elastically with two identical balls whose centers are on a line perpendicular to the initial velocity and that are initially in contact with each other. The first ball is aimed directly at the contact point and all motion is frictionless.
>What is the speed of ball 1 after the collision?
>What is the speed of ball 2 after the collision?

Homework Equations


m1v1i + m2v2i = m1v1fcos(θ) + m2v2fcos(θ)
KE = 1/2 mv12 + 1/2 mv22

The Attempt at a Solution


So I know that the velocities have two components, x and y. I also know that at the collision point, the angle of the centers of mass are 30° (since the balls form an equilateral triangle).
For the x-component, I tried using the conservation of momentum equation above with cos(30°) and using the KE equation to substitute for unknown values of v1 and v2.
For the y-component I tried doing the same, but since the original velocity in the y-component is 0, I used
0 = m1v1sin(θ) + m2v2sin(30). For θ I tried 30, 60, and 180, but none of them worked.
Now I'm a bit stuck and I'm getting confused from all the variables I'm trying here. Any direction is appreciated!
 
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hi baubletop! :smile:

what directions are you assuming for the three balls after the collision? :wink:
 
Should the first one go backwards since it's an elastic collision?
 
i'm not worried about backwards or forwards, just the line :wink:

(and now I'm off to bed :zzz:)
 
This is the diagram that came with the problem:
prob04a.gif


So the first ball would go forward, and the other two would move outwards 30° from that straight line, right?
 
(just got up :zzz:)
baubletop said:
So the first ball would go forward, and the other two would move outwards 30° from that straight line, right?

(forwards or backwards)

yup! :smile:

ok, now do components of momentum in the forwards direction, and energy :wink:
 
I have exactly the same problem.
Can someone please explain and solve this? Please?

(baubletop have you ever solve this?)

Many thanks.