How to solve Asin(x) + Bcos(x) + Ctan(x) = 0

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation Asin(x) + Bcos(x) + Ctan(x) = 0, which involves trigonometric functions and their relationships. Participants are exploring methods to transform this equation into a quadratic form in terms of tan(x).

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  • Participants are attempting various algebraic manipulations to isolate terms and transform the equation. Some are considering the implications of expressing the equation in terms of tan(x) and questioning how to eliminate mixed sine and cosine terms.

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There are multiple approaches being discussed, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the quartic form derived from their manipulations. Others are providing suggestions for rearranging the equation and exploring graphical insights to aid understanding.

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Participants are grappling with the complexity of the equation and the need to adhere to specific formats for their solutions, as well as the constraints imposed by homework guidelines. There is a focus on maintaining the integrity of the trigonometric identities involved.

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I need help in solving this equation

asenx+bcosx+ctanx=0

I solved it a few years ago but now I don't remember the right process.. The solution has to be in this way

Atan^2(x)+Btan(x)+C=0

where A = f(a,b,c), B = g(a,b,c) and C = h(a,b,c)

Thanks in advance
 
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tan is sin/cos and cos^2+sin^2=1, that is sufficient to let you solve it.
 
Yes, these are the formulas I'm using. But I need some more help.. please show me some of the steps I can follow to solve it
 
I'm trying:

asin(x)+bcos(x)=-ctan(x)
a^2sin^2(x)+2absin(x)cos(x)+b^2cos^2(x)=c^2sin^2(x)/cos^2(x)

I know I have to quit the sin(x)cos(x) term, how to do it? Please, give me some ideas, I'll thank you a lot.
 
Other way I've tried is this
we call
x = tan^(-1)(y)
then
ay/sqrt(1+y^2)+b/sqrt(1+y^2)+cy=0
ay+b+cy*sqrt(1+y^2)=0
ay+b=-cy*sqrt(1+y^2)
a^2y^2+2aby+b^2=c^2y^2(1+y^2)
a^2y^2+2aby+b^2=c^2y^2+c^2y^4
c^2y^4+(c^2-a^2)y^2-2aby-b^2=0

The result is a quartic equation where y=tan(x), but this is not the solution I want to get.
 
Why not try to get all sines onto one side of the equation and cosines onto the other?
 
How? I still have the sin(x)cos(x) factor.
 
sarcaine said:
The result is a quartic equation where y=tan(x), but this is not the solution I want to get.
What's wrong with the quartic?
 
It's just that this equation can be expressed in this way

Atan^2(x)+Btan(x)+C=0

This is much more pretty than the quartic.
Other reason is that t's not easy to solve the quartic because of the 2aby factor.
 
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I've reached this equation

(a^2+b^2)-2cb/sin(x)-b^2/sin^2(x)=c^2/cos^2(x)

Don't know next step
 
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sarcaine said:
a^2sin^2(x)+2absin(x)cos(x)+b^2cos^2(x)=c^2sin^2(x)/cos^2(x)
I've solved the problem the way you asked me too, I'm not going to step you through it as that ruins the fun...

I basically started from this point though, can you do anything to the right hand side that would cancel a few things on the left hand side?

To use my method you'll have to adapt the sin^2 + cos^2 = 1 equation ever so slightly.

:)

From the point you got to in the quote above there's only 2 lines of working left!


:cool:

Your method may lead to some results too, go down whichever route feels comfortable.
 
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Thanks! I was beginning to believe that it was a wrong method. Now I know it can be solved that way.

And I remember I did something like what you're saying , if you could lend me some more information...

:smile:
 
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For me, it helps to look at the graphs of sin, cos and tan at the beginning of a problem like this, in order to understand what the solution(s) will be, and to understand how to limit the domain of the solution. Maybe just try it briefly to see if it lends some intuition to what you are doing.

Just plot sin, cos and tan over a couple of cycles left and right of the origin, including the asymptotes of the tan function. Do you see some angles where you can get the three to add up to zero, given some A B and C values?
 
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power freak said:
To use my method you'll have to adapt the sin^2 + cos^2 = 1 equation ever so slightly.

:)

From the point you got to in the quote above there's only 2 lines of working left!

I'm trying to get it this way but I can't reach it. Could you be more specific? What does it mean slightly? Do I have to add 1 to both sides of the equation? Thanks
 
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please help!
 
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I need help!
 

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