How to Solve This Rotational Motion Problem?

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The problem involves rotational motion and energy conservation principles, specifically focusing on the transition from kinetic energy to potential energy in a system involving a spring. The original poster seeks assistance in solving a problem related to these concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy, questioning whether to break the problem into stages. They explore the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy at different points in the motion.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the approach to take, suggesting a focus on energy conservation without breaking the problem into stages. There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions at maximum extension and the role of gravitational potential energy.

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There are references to potential errors in the source material, and some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their reasoning and calculations. The problem starts with the system at rest, and assumptions about energy states are being discussed.

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Hi friends,
Please help me in solving this problem, I'll appreciate the help.

The problem is as:

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Attempt -

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Thank you all in advance.
 
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You don't need to break it into two stages. Just look at work conservation from moment of release to maximum extension.
 
haruspex said:
You don't need to break it into two stages. Just look at work conservation from moment of release to maximum extension.

According to this, K.E. →Max→at mean position (I think it won't be the release point)
and
P.E.→Max→ at ext. position.

1/2. mv2 + 1/2 Iω2 = 1/2. kx2 (since ω= v/r)

=> 1/2. mv2 + 1/2 (1/2.mr2)(v/r)2 = 1/2. kx2
=> 3/4. mv2 = 1/2. kx2
x2 = (3/2)(mv2)/k
Is that correct?
 
coldblood said:
According to this, K.E. →Max→at mean position (I think it won't be the release point)
and
P.E.→Max→ at ext. position.

1/2. mv2 + 1/2 Iω2 = 1/2. kx2 (since ω= v/r)

=> 1/2. mv2 + 1/2 (1/2.mr2)(v/r)2 = 1/2. kx2
=> 3/4. mv2 = 1/2. kx2
x2 = (3/2)(mv2)/k
Is that correct?
It starts at rest, and it will be instantaneously at rest at maximum extension, so there's no KE to consider. There's just the lost gravitational PE and the gained spring PE.
 
haruspex said:
It starts at rest, and it will be instantaneously at rest at maximum extension, so there's no KE to consider. There's just the lost gravitational PE and the gained spring PE.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1488253_1462165574010548_1361638838_n.jpg
 
coldblood said:
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Well, well. Another error in the book! Your answer is correct.
 
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