What is the Solution to this Rotational Motion Problem?

In summary, the conversation is about solving a problem involving finding the moment of inertia of an object about a certain point. Two methods are discussed, with the first one being successful and the second one failing due to the wrong placement of a right angle. The conversation also touches upon using the parallel axis theorem to find the moment of inertia about a point that is not the mass centre. The problem is ultimately solved and the conversation concludes with the clarification that the theorem works in this specific case because the displacements are at right angles.
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coldblood
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Hi friends,
Please help me in solving this problem, I'll appreciate the help.

The problem is as:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/1503966_1461727630721009_1993563313_n.jpg

Attempt -

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1514999_1461727717387667_205197017_n.jpg
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Thank you all in advance.
 
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Your first method happens to work because the two displacements (from the centre of the rod to the end of the rod, then from the end of the rod to O) are at right angles. Adding the squares of those therefore gives the square of the distance from the centre of the rod to O.
Your second one failed because you had the right angle in the wrong place, so subtracted the squares instead of adding.
 
  • #3
Your first method happens to work because the two displacements (from the centre of the rod to the end of the rod, then from the end of the rod to O) are at right angles. Adding the squares of those therefore gives the square of the distance from the centre of the rod to O.
Your second one failed because you had the right angle in the wrong place, so subtracted the squares instead of adding.
 
  • #4
haruspex said:
Your first method happens to work because the two displacements (from the centre of the rod to the end of the rod, then from the end of the rod to O) are at right angles. Adding the squares of those therefore gives the square of the distance from the centre of the rod to O.
Your second one failed because you had the right angle in the wrong place, so subtracted the squares instead of adding.

Sorry haruspex I don't get it.
 
  • #5
Label the left-hand end of the object A and the next corner B. So AC=CB and CBO is a right angle. But you drew the picture more as though BCO was a right angle, and this led you to the wrong equation for the distance CO.
 
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haruspex said:
Label the left-hand end of the object A and the next corner B. So AC=CB and CBO is a right angle. But you drew the picture more as though BCO was a right angle, and this led you to the wrong equation for the distance CO.

I got it, but what about this -
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/1525140_1462156974011408_1387363187_n.jpg
 
  • #7
coldblood said:
I got it, but what about this -
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/1525140_1462156974011408_1387363187_n.jpg
I'm not sure I understand your remaining difficulty.
The MoI about C is mL2/12.
By parallel axis theorem, MoI about B is mL2/12 + mL2/4 = mL2/3.
Likewise, by parallel axis theorem, MoI about O is mL2/12 + m(CO2) = mL2/12 + m(CB2+BO2) (Pythagoras) = mL2/12 + mL2/4 + mL2 = 4mL2/3.
It is not in general valid to apply the theorem to find the MoI about one point that's not the mass centre, then add the square of the displacement to a third point, but it works here because the two displacements, from C to B then from B to O, happen to be at right angles.
 
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The problem has been cleared.
 

1. What is rotational motion?

Rotational motion refers to the movement of an object around an axis or point, resulting in a circular or curved path.

2. How is rotational motion different from linear motion?

Rotational motion involves movement around an axis, while linear motion involves movement in a straight line. Rotational motion also involves factors such as angular velocity, torque, and moment of inertia, which are not present in linear motion.

3. What is angular velocity?

Angular velocity is a measure of how fast an object is rotating around an axis. It is usually represented by the Greek letter omega (ω) and is measured in radians per second.

4. How does torque affect rotational motion?

Torque is a measure of the force that causes an object to rotate around an axis. It is directly proportional to the angular acceleration of the object. The greater the torque, the faster the object will rotate.

5. What is the moment of inertia?

The moment of inertia is a measure of an object's resistance to changes in rotational motion. It depends on the mass and distribution of the object's mass relative to the axis of rotation. Objects with a larger moment of inertia will be more difficult to rotate.

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