What is the Solution to this Rotational Motion Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a rotational motion problem involving the moment of inertia (MoI) of a rod and its relation to different points. Participants are analyzing the geometric relationships and the application of the parallel axis theorem in this context.

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  • Participants discuss various methods for calculating the moment of inertia, questioning the placement of right angles in their diagrams and the implications for their calculations. There is an exploration of the relationship between different points on the rod and the correct application of the parallel axis theorem.

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Some participants have offered clarifications on the geometric setup and the application of theorems, while others express confusion about specific aspects of the problem. The discussion appears to be progressing with attempts to clarify misunderstandings, but no consensus has been reached.

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Hi friends,
Please help me in solving this problem, I'll appreciate the help.

The problem is as:

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Attempt -

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Thank you all in advance.
 
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Your first method happens to work because the two displacements (from the centre of the rod to the end of the rod, then from the end of the rod to O) are at right angles. Adding the squares of those therefore gives the square of the distance from the centre of the rod to O.
Your second one failed because you had the right angle in the wrong place, so subtracted the squares instead of adding.
 
Your first method happens to work because the two displacements (from the centre of the rod to the end of the rod, then from the end of the rod to O) are at right angles. Adding the squares of those therefore gives the square of the distance from the centre of the rod to O.
Your second one failed because you had the right angle in the wrong place, so subtracted the squares instead of adding.
 
haruspex said:
Your first method happens to work because the two displacements (from the centre of the rod to the end of the rod, then from the end of the rod to O) are at right angles. Adding the squares of those therefore gives the square of the distance from the centre of the rod to O.
Your second one failed because you had the right angle in the wrong place, so subtracted the squares instead of adding.

Sorry haruspex I don't get it.
 
Label the left-hand end of the object A and the next corner B. So AC=CB and CBO is a right angle. But you drew the picture more as though BCO was a right angle, and this led you to the wrong equation for the distance CO.
 
haruspex said:
Label the left-hand end of the object A and the next corner B. So AC=CB and CBO is a right angle. But you drew the picture more as though BCO was a right angle, and this led you to the wrong equation for the distance CO.

I got it, but what about this -
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coldblood said:
I got it, but what about this -
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I'm not sure I understand your remaining difficulty.
The MoI about C is mL2/12.
By parallel axis theorem, MoI about B is mL2/12 + mL2/4 = mL2/3.
Likewise, by parallel axis theorem, MoI about O is mL2/12 + m(CO2) = mL2/12 + m(CB2+BO2) (Pythagoras) = mL2/12 + mL2/4 + mL2 = 4mL2/3.
It is not in general valid to apply the theorem to find the MoI about one point that's not the mass centre, then add the square of the displacement to a third point, but it works here because the two displacements, from C to B then from B to O, happen to be at right angles.
 
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