How to specify the direction of Friction force

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The discussion revolves around understanding the direction of the friction force in a physics problem involving a truck and a box. Participants are exploring the principles of friction and its relationship to motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of friction, noting that it opposes motion. Questions arise about the correct application of friction in relation to the movement of the truck and the box.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct direction of the friction force, with participants offering differing interpretations and clarifications regarding the free body diagram and the forces involved. Some guidance has been provided, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants mention constraints such as time limitations due to an upcoming exam and the requirement for a free body diagram that includes specific forces. There is also a discussion about how different instructors may assess the representation of forces in diagrams.

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How to specify the direction of Friction force ,

Hello,

Could you tell me how to specify the direction of the friction force ?

For example see the question below, I couldn't solve the question
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7808/25857191iu3.png
 
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Well, what does friction do? It impedes motion!

So the direction is opposite to the direction of motion!
 
i solved it and the answer is 1.71 m/s2 is it correct ??
sorry i can post the solution steps because the short of time.
please reply as soon as possible because the exam is soon
 
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Here is the free body diagram

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/3640/46900974mn2.png

Is there any mistake ??
 
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UNknown 2010 said:
Here is the free body diagram

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/3640/46900974mn2.png

Is there any mistake ??
I see a couple of errors. Since you've broken up the weight into its x (Wsin10) and y (Wcos10) components, that "W" acting down no longer belongs in your FBD.

It appears that you are using a value of g=10m/s^2, which is fine, but you had better check the direction of your friction force. The problem is asking for the maximum acceleration of the truck. Static friction forces oppose the direction of imminent relative motion between the 2 surfaces.
 
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when they ask you a freebody diagram they only asking you only the force ,the friction force and force of gravity which is mg. you can split mg in two 3 parts but some teachers and Ap exm. don't give you creadit. any way...
friction is always is opposit of the force action up on it. so you are right on the FBD .
 
kmikias said:
friction is always is opposit of the force action up on it. so you are right on the FBD .
No, friction is always opposite the direction of relative motion or pending relative motion between the two objects. Consider the case where the box is sitting on the rough truckbed, and the truck is on a horizontal level surface. If the truck accelerates to the left, which way does the friction force act on the box?
 
look at the first picture I posted.
the truck is moving and the box it on it so the box is moving too.
so the direction of the friction is opposite that movement !
 
UNknown 2010 said:
look at the first picture I posted.
the truck is moving and the box it on it so the box is moving too.
so the direction of the friction is opposite that movement !
No, friction is always opposite the direction of relative motion or pending relative motion between the two objects. Consider the simpler case where the box is sitting on the rough truckbed, and the truck is on a horizontal level surface. If the truck accelerates to the left, which way does the friction force act on the box? I hope you will answer "to the left"...which is in the direction of the acceleration relative to the ground, and the direction of its movement relative to the ground (it may not be moving at all with respect to the truck).
 
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Okay, Thank you PhanthomJay .
 
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