How to Tackle Challenging Questions in the Senior Maths Challenge?

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The discussion revolves around strategies for tackling challenging questions in the Senior Maths Challenge, specifically focusing on a past paper question that involves logical reasoning and deduction. Participants share their approaches and methods for solving the problem presented.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the importance of recognizing that the leftmost column sums to 13, leading to deductions about the values of the empty cells.
  • Another participant suggests applying similar logic to the bottom row to identify which numbers must be used, indicating a deductive approach to the problem.
  • A different participant expresses uncertainty about the possibility of multiple solutions and mentions using the process of elimination as a method.
  • One participant confirms they arrived at the same answer as another by employing the deductive reasoning suggested earlier in the discussion.
  • A participant reflects on their unfamiliarity with this type of question compared to national exam questions, which typically have a more defined method to follow.

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Participants generally agree on the use of deductive reasoning and elimination methods, but there is uncertainty regarding the potential for multiple solutions to the problem, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved.

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Some participants express limitations in their familiarity with this type of question format, which may affect their approach and confidence in solving similar problems.

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Students preparing for the Senior Maths Challenge, educators looking for insights into problem-solving strategies, and individuals interested in mathematical reasoning techniques may find this discussion beneficial.

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Hi I am taking senior maths challenge this year and was looking over some of the past paper questions. I did the first 10 questions and they seemed okay (although i took a bit of time on the year question which turned out to be monday) and looked at q10.

http://www.wpr3.co.uk/UKMT/smc.html (scroll to q10)

Is there any method to tackle this kind of question? I could spend a lot of time experimenting with different numbers but I'm usually used to having some kind of method to go through the question. Any help on a good logical approach/method would be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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Well, you can start by noting that the leftmost column sums to 13 so the two empties sum to four. This forces one tow be 3 and the other to be 1, since duplication isn't allowed.
 
CRGreathouse has the right method. Use the same logic on the bottom row (ie figure out which numbers HAVE to be used, and why). Then you should be left with three numbers that have not been used. From there, you need to think, what happens if the top column is 9 1 3 (descending), then whcih of my three numbers left would work (if any.. hint hint).

So the trick is, to assume that there is only one possible place for each of the nine numbers. If that is the case, you can work out deductively what has to go where.
 
I don't know if there is a shorter method than to use the process of elimination. I am not sure if it is possible that it might have more than one solution.

Anyways, it seems the sequence

9
3
1 8 4
* * 7
* * 2 6 5


works.
 
yeah thanks a lot, i worked the answer using the same idea as crg and diffy said and got the same answer as nesna.

Im not used to these kinds of questions as the national exam questions always have a strict method to follow.
 

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