How to take the derivative of implicit functions

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The discussion centers on the process of taking derivatives of implicit functions, particularly focusing on the differentiation of the equation x² + y² - 1 = 0 with respect to x. Participants explore the application of the chain rule in this context and seek clarification on the notation used for derivatives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant demonstrates the differentiation of the implicit function and arrives at the expression for dy/dx.
  • Another participant explains that the derivative of y² involves the chain rule, leading to the inclusion of dy/dx in the expression.
  • A later reply expresses appreciation for the clarification regarding the chain rule.
  • Participants engage in light-hearted banter about the terminology used to describe the notation for derivatives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the application of the chain rule in differentiating implicit functions, though there is a playful disagreement regarding the terminology used to describe the notation.

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No specific limitations or unresolved mathematical steps are noted in the discussion.

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Readers interested in implicit differentiation, the chain rule, or those seeking clarification on derivative notation may find this discussion useful.

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I have been able to follow how to take the derivative of implicit functions, such as:

[tex]x^2+y^2-1=0[/tex]

Differentiating with respect to x

[tex]2x+2y\frac{dy}{dx}=0[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{-x}{y}[/tex]

Sure it's simple to follow, but I don't understand why the [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] is tacked onto the end of the differentiated variable y.

An explanation or article on the subject would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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You're differentiating wrt x, so using the chain rule:

[tex]\frac{d}{dx}(y^2)=\frac{d}{dy}(y^2)\frac{dy}{dx}=2y\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]
 
Aha, so it's done using the chain rule. Thankyou :smile:
 
It's not "tacked on", it's nailed firmly!:-p
 
haha :smile:
I always think 2 moves ahead, taking into consideration that separating to isolate will be necessary. Nail vs tack, I think we know the winner :wink:
 
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