How to Use Proof by Induction for 24|2*7^n+3*5^n-5

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The discussion focuses on proving that \(24 \mid (2 \cdot 7^n + 3 \cdot 5^n - 5)\) using mathematical induction and congruence arguments. The proof is initiated by verifying the base case for \(n=1\) and assuming the statement holds for \(n=k\). The participants explore simplifications and congruences, ultimately demonstrating that both terms are divisible by 24 for all integers \(n \geq 1\). The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding odd and even properties in the context of divisibility.

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Prove 24|2*7^n+3*5^n-5


I showed true for n=1:
2*7+3*5-5=14+15-5=24
Thus divisible by 24
Assume true for all k>=1. Need to prove true for n=k+1
Then 2*7^(k+1)+3*5^(k+1)-5=14*7^k+15*5^k-5
I get this far and now I get stuck simplifying enough to show it's true
 
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2*7*7^k+3*5*5^k-5
[2*7^k+3*5^k-5]+7*7^k+5*5^k
 
Instead of using induction try a simple congruence argument.

24 divides 2(7)^n + 3(5)^n - 5 iff 2(7)^n + 3(5)^n = 5 mod 24

Now if n is even this is true since 7^2 = 5^2 = 1 mod 24

If is n is odd the result is also immediate.
 
kathrynag said:
2*7*7^k+3*5*5^k-5
[2*7^k+3*5^k-5]+7*7^k+5*5^k
Hi Kathryn.

2\cdot 7\cdot 7^k+3\cdot 5\cdot 5^k-5=2\cdot \left(1+6\right)\cdot 7^k+3\cdot \left(1+4\right)\cdot 5^k-5
     =\left(2\cdot 7^k+3\cdot 5^k-5\right)+2\cdot \left(6\right)\cdot 7^k+3\cdot \left(4\right)\cdot 5^k

     =\left(2\cdot 7^k+3\cdot 5^k-5\right)+12\left( 7^k+ 5^k\right)

Can you take it from here?
 
Yep, I can see both values are divisible by 24. Thanks!
 
SammyS said:
Hi Kathryn.

2\cdot 7\cdot 7^k+3\cdot 5\cdot 5^k-5=2\cdot \left(1+6\right)\cdot 7^k+3\cdot \left(1+4\right)\cdot 5^k-5
     =\left(2\cdot 7^k+3\cdot 5^k-5\right)+2\cdot \left(6\right)\cdot 7^k+3\cdot \left(4\right)\cdot 5^k

     =\left(2\cdot 7^k+3\cdot 5^k-5\right)+12\left( 7^k+ 5^k\right)

Can you take it from here?

I see that 12(7^k + 5^k) is divisible by 24 when k=1, but why does that suffice for all k>1? Don't I have to prove that?
 
barylwires said:
I see that 12(7^k + 5^k) is divisible by 24 when k=1, but why does that suffice for all k>1? Don't I have to prove that?

I mean, the left side is divisible by 24 by induction hypothesis. Why do I get the right side for free? Or, do I?
 
barylwires said:
I see that 12(7^k + 5^k) is divisible by 24 when k=1, but why does that suffice for all k>1? Don't I have to prove that?

[STRIKE](You're hitch-hiking on Kathryn's post.)[/STRIKE]

7^k is odd, so is 5^k. The sum of two ODDs is even, thus contains a factor of 2.

Prove it if you like, but a simple statement like that would usually suffice.
 
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SammyS said:
(You're hitch-hiking on Kathryn's post.)

7^k is odd, so is 5^k. The sum of two ODDs is even, thus contains a factor of 2.

Prove it if you like, but a simple statement like that would usually suffice.

That's beautiful! Thanks.
 

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