How would the be without no life after death belief?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the implications of a world without beliefs in life after death, focusing on themes of selfishness, morality, altruism, and the potential for societal peace. Participants engage in a conceptual examination of how human behavior and ethics might differ in the absence of religious frameworks.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that without beliefs in sin or karma, human behavior might be more selfish, while others argue that selfishness is inherent to human nature regardless of religious beliefs.
  • One participant posits that altruism evolved as a beneficial trait for family groups, independent of religious motivations.
  • Another viewpoint claims that religious morality is a construct that does not necessarily dictate ethical behavior, and secular ethics can exist independently.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential bias in the discussion, with one participant feeling that they are the only religious voice among skeptics.
  • Several participants discuss the definitions of selfishness and self-interest, suggesting that self-interest does not equate to selfishness if it includes concern for others.
  • One participant references John Lennon's lyrics to question the assumption that a lack of belief in life after death would lead to world peace.
  • There are assertions that the motivations behind altruistic actions may be rooted in self-interest, particularly in the context of securing a favorable afterlife.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the relationship between religious beliefs and human behavior, with no clear consensus on whether a lack of belief in life after death would lead to increased selfishness or societal peace. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of defining terms like selfishness and self-interest, indicating that these concepts may vary in interpretation. The discussion also reflects a tension between differing philosophical perspectives, particularly between religious and secular viewpoints.

  • #31
What about dictatorships? Funding organizations?
 
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  • #32
Math Jeans said:
I think that no life after death would mean that almost everyone would believe that death is oblivion. With that being the case, many people would want their lives to be the best possible. I truly believe that this would reduce war.

Or increase it, as everyone fights and struggles to get as much as they can out of this life.

Religion was always the tool of dictators, it makes the peasants and slaves feel good to think they will be 'rewarded' eventually by an all powerful arbitrator.
 
  • #33
So there won't be planned wars but local violence will increase a lot. And to oppose dictatorship, people have to sacrifice their life, would that happen?
 

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