How would you have done this Coulomb's law problem?

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The problem involves determining the position of a third particle with an unknown charge such that the net electrostatic force acting on it is zero, given two other charged particles. The context is based on Coulomb's law and the arrangement of charges in a two-dimensional plane.

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  • The original poster attempts to reason through the placement of the third particle based on the forces exerted by the other two charges, noting the necessity for the forces to be equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. They question the reasoning behind the y-coordinate being zero and seek clarification on their approach.

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Some participants have provided hints and affirmations regarding the original poster's method, while others have raised questions about the nature of vector cancellation in this context. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants exploring the implications of the problem setup.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the y-coordinate being zero and whether this conclusion is derived from the problem's layout or through calculations. There is also a mention of the arithmetic involved in their solution, indicating a focus on verification of their approach.

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Homework Statement



In the figure, particle 1 of charge 1.0 micro Coulombs and particle 2 of charge -3.0 micro Coulombs are held at a separation of L = 10.0 cm. If particle 3, of unknown charge is to be located such that the net electrostatic force on it is 0, what must its x and y coordinates be?

(figure)

1<------L------->2

with 1 at the origin.


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Coulomb's law

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I noted that the particle must be to the left of 1 because 2 is of stronger net charge, so it must be closer to 1 and further from 2.

Furthermore, since the sum of the two forces is 0, they must be equal in magnitude and opposite in sign.

kq_{1}q_{3}r^{-2}_{1}\widehat{r}_{1} = - kq_{2}q_{3}r^{-2}_{2}\widehat{r}_{2}

q_{1}r^{-2}_{1}\widehat{r}_{1} = - q_{2}r^{-2}_{2}\widehat{r}_{2}

I was stumped here until I cheated and looked at the y coordinate answer. It is 0. Only knowing that was I able to solve. Can someone tell me why that is the case?


Since I know the y coordinate is 0, the vectors on both is -i, allowing me to cancel them out.


q_{1}r^{-2}_{1} = - q_{2}r^{-2}_{2}

(1x10^{-6})r^{-2}_{1} = (3x10^{-6})r^{-2}_{2}

r^{-2}_{1} = 3r^{-2}_{2}

r^{2}_{2} = 3r^{2}_{1}

r_{2} = \sqrt{3}r_{1}

I also know that r2 is 10 greater than r1.

r_{2} = 10 + r_{1}

Substituting that for r2 in the first equation,

r1 = 13.66.

Since I know it's to the left of r1, and r1 is on the origin, the x coordinate must be -13.66.

The answer in the book is -14, so I'm reasonably confident.

However, I want to know:

1.) Is this how you would have done it?
2.) Why is the y component 0?
3.) Is the y component known to be 0 through working the problem, or from examining the layout of the particles?

TY
 
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Hint: Can two non-parallel vectors cancel?
 
Nope, I see. Thanks.

does the rest look ok?
 
I didn't check your arithmetic, but your method is perfectly correct.
 

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