HS AP Chem question - mass % of each compound in a sample

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The discussion revolves around a high school AP Chemistry problem involving the calculation of mass percentages of compounds (NaCl, Na2SO4, and NaNO3) in a sample based on elemental analysis data. Participants seek to understand the methodology for solving this problem, including the necessary calculations and approaches.

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  • One participant expresses confusion over how to approach the problem and requests assistance with calculations.
  • Another participant points out a typographical error in the chemical formula provided by the original poster, clarifying that "SA2SO4" should be "Na2SO4".
  • A participant suggests that the problem can be solved using a system of linear equations, providing a detailed mathematical framework for the calculations needed.
  • The same participant offers specific equations to relate the quantities of each compound to the given elemental percentages, indicating how to derive the mass percentages from these relationships.
  • There is a mention of using a graphing calculator to verify the solutions for the quantities of each compound, although a caution is noted regarding significant figures.

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Participants generally agree on the approach of using linear equations to solve the problem, but there is no consensus on the correctness of the calculations or the final mass percentages, as some values provided by the original poster differ from those calculated by others.

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Some calculations presented by participants are incomplete or lack clarity, and there are unresolved steps in the mathematical reasoning. The discussion reflects a range of understanding and approaches to the problem, with some participants needing further clarification on specific aspects of the calculations.

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I am new to AP Chem and given a problem that I cannot begin to figure out how to compute. None of my calculations come up with the correct answer. How do I work through this?

PROBLEM: A sample containing NACl, SA2S04 and NAN03 (the number are sub), gives the following elemental analysis: NA: 32.08%; O: 36.01%; Cl: 19.51%. Calculate the mass percent of each compound in the sample?

How do I do this. My calculations are not coming out. Please help
 
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1. Unless you show us what effort you've made we can't help you. Please read the posting guidelines. We need to first see what thoughts or ideas you have.

2. What is "SA2SO4" (there's no such compound) ?

3. Henceforth, please post similar questions under the Homework & Coursework subforum.
 
Challengenging

Sorry, not sure where to post everything. First time on site as user.

#2 should be NA2SO4

What I have done!

Cl: 12.42% 12.41/19.51 = 1.56 cl: 8.05 (8.051/8.02 = 1.00)
NACl - 58.14g
T=20.47%
A=32.14% NOTE This answer is supposed tobe32.17%

Na: 16.11% O=22.42 Na2SO4 = 142.05g
32.14+20.50=52.72 T=49.76%
A=20.58 45.69

0 .5.83 NaNO3 =.05 g
Na ? T 29.77%
A 15.45 27.39

Na 4/32.08% = 8.02%
O= 7/36.01% = 5.14%
Cl= 19.51%

S=x
N=y
TOTAL of S & N = 12.04

Total of all =100%
32.08
36.01
19.51
12.40

How do I figure out the mass percent of the sample?

Help: altay
 
1) Welcome to PF :smile:

2) Generally, you would post such questions here. Also, you can sometimes ask PF moderators/admins to 'move' your thread to a more appropriate forum.

3) Your question can easily be solved via a system of linear equations, (although I'm not sure if that's what the AP Chemistry Exam prefers...). Letting mX denote numerically the molar mass of the element 'X', the relative quantities of moles NaCl (x), Na2SO4 (y), NaNO3 (z) can be calculated as the solution to

\begin{gathered}<br /> m_{{\text{Na}}} \left( {x + 2y + z} \right) = 32.08 \hfill \\<br /> m_{\text{O}} \left( {4y + 3z} \right) = 36.01 \hfill \\<br /> m_{{\text{Cl}}} x = 19.51 \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered}

Note that we can substitute x=19.51/mCl into the 2nd and 3rd equations,
and also (for convenience) rewrite them as:
\begin{gathered}<br /> 2y + z = 32.08m_{{\text{Na}}}^{ - 1} - 19.51m_{{\text{Cl}}}^{ - 1} \hfill \\ 4y + 3z = 36.01m_{{\text{O}}}^{ - 1} \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered}

Elimination (of these two equations) will allow us to immediately solve for both y and z, as
\begin{gathered}<br /> y = \frac{{3\left( {32.08m_{{\text{Na}}}^{ - 1} - 19.51m_{{\text{Cl}}}^{ - 1} } \right) - 36.01m_{\text{O}}^{ - 1} }}<br /> {{\text{2}}} \hfill \\<br /> z = 36.01m_{\text{O}}^{ - 1} - 2\left( {32.08m_{{\text{Na}}}^{ - 1} - 19.51m_{{\text{Cl}}}^{ - 1} } \right) \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered}

"Plugging in" the molar masses values for Na, O, and Cl, we find that
x=0.5504
y=0.1414
z=0.5618

To find the mass percents of NaCl, Na2SO4, and NaNO3, simply multiply the molar masses
of each compound by the relative molar quantities of each compound. Thus,

*Mass percent NaCl = 0.5504(58.44) = 32.17%
*Mass percent Na2SO4 = 0.1414(142.0) = 20.08%
*Mass percent NaNO3 = 0.5618(84.99) = 47.75%
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Edit: You can check your answers for (x,y,z) on a graphing calculator via solving the
(augmented) matrix:
\left[ {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> \hfill 1 &amp; \hfill 2 &amp; \hfill 1 &amp; \hfill {\text{1.395}}} \\<br /> \hfill 0 &amp; \hfill 4 &amp; \hfill 3 &amp; \hfill {2.251} \\<br /> \hfill 1 &amp; \hfill 0 &amp; \hfill 0 &amp; \hfill {0.5504} \\<br /> \end{array} } \right]

IIRC, the AP Chemistry Exam allows graphing calculators on the free response section, so you should have no trouble with these types of questions.

However, remember that graphing calculators do not usually consider significant figures when solving matrices.
 
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