Human Pressure: How Much Air & Water Can We Withstand?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the pressures that humans can withstand in air and water, exploring the limits of human physiology in extreme conditions. Participants examine the thresholds for breathing difficulties, the implications of pressure on lung function, and the potential factors leading to death under such conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the specific air and water pressures that humans can tolerate before breathing becomes difficult or impossible.
  • There is a mention of the limitations of human lungs, with some suggesting that they can only manage a pressure difference of about 20-30 inH20.
  • Others propose that with a pressure-regulated breathing device, such as SCUBA, the body can withstand significant hydrostatic pressures.
  • A participant references a fictional scenario from the movie "Abyss," discussing the use of an embryonic fluid for oxygen delivery under extreme pressure, raising questions about the feasibility of such methods in reality.
  • Concerns are expressed about the potential for lung expansion and the effects of extreme pressure on the ribcage and internal organs, especially if it can crush metal oxygen tanks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the limits of human pressure tolerance, with no consensus reached on the exact thresholds or the implications of extreme pressures on human physiology.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the effectiveness of SCUBA equipment at extreme depths and the physiological responses to pressure changes remain unresolved. The discussion also highlights the speculative nature of scenarios drawn from fictional sources.

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What kind of air or water pressures can a human withstand? Approximately when does it become difficult to breathe and eventually impossible to breathe? After this point, would the person being succumb to these extremes be able to hold air in their lungs? What would be the first factor to cause death?
 
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Mentallic said:
What kind of air or water pressures can a human withstand? Approximately when does it become difficult to breathe and eventually impossible to breathe? After this point, would the person being succumb to these extremes be able to hold air in their lungs? What would be the first factor to cause death?

Keep in mind that when diving underwater with a scuba tank, you are breathing pressurized air. You can't breathe surface-pressure air more than a few feet down.
 
Echoing what berkeman said, your lungs can only pull a \Delta P of about 20-30 inH20. But, if you had a pressure-regulated breathing device (SCUBA, etc), your body can physically withstand quite high and low hydrostatic pressures.
 
Andy Resnick said:
Echoing what berkeman said, your lungs can only pull a \Delta P of about 20-30 inH20. But, if you had a pressure-regulated breathing device (SCUBA, etc), your body can physically withstand quite high and low hydrostatic pressures.

In the movie Abyss, they had to use an embryonic style delivery for oxygen (the synthesized embryonic fluid was 'charged' with a finite amount of oxygen and then the diver had to inhale the fluid into their lungs.)

Of course, it's a movie, but I think the rationale is that the oxygen tanks themselves couldn't withstand the pressure at the depths they were going...

But if that's the case, then is there a depth at which the pressure is so much that we can't expand our lungs to inhale, even with SCUBA equipment? I mean if it will crush a metal cylinder of oxygen, what would it do to the ribcage and/or internal organs?
 

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