Hydrostatic Equilibrium in an Accretion Disc

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The discussion revolves around the concept of hydrostatic equilibrium in an accretion disc orbiting a star, specifically addressing the balance between pressure gradients and gravitational forces in the vertical direction. Participants explore the implications of these forces on the density profile of the disc and the conditions necessary for maintaining equilibrium.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the pressure gradient in an accretion disc can balance the gravitational potential energy of the star, seeking clarification on this relationship.
  • Another participant asserts that the pressure gradient does not balance the gravitational potential but rather that gravitational forces are balanced by centrifugal forces, emphasizing the need for a radial balance equation.
  • It is noted that the hydrostatic equilibrium equation describes the vertical balance and does not imply that pressure gradients counteract gravitational forces directly.
  • Several participants discuss the implications of hydrostatic equilibrium, suggesting that if pressure is insufficient to resist gravity, the disc would collapse towards the mid-plane, leading to increased pressure until equilibrium is restored.
  • There is a clarification that the gravitational force acting on gas in the disc has both radial and vertical components, with the vertical component being balanced by the pressure of the disc.
  • One participant questions the expression for gravitational force in the vertical direction, suggesting an alternative formulation, while others defend the original expression based on the geometry of the system.
  • Participants engage in a discussion about the gravitational potential and its dependence on the radial distance and vertical height, referencing trigonometric relationships to explain the vertical component of gravitational force.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between pressure gradients and gravitational forces, with some asserting that pressure gradients are essential for vertical equilibrium while others emphasize the role of centrifugal forces in maintaining stability. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of these relationships.

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Participants reference specific equations and concepts from fluid dynamics and astrophysics, indicating a reliance on mathematical formulations that may not be universally accepted or fully resolved within the discussion.

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This is regarding an accretion disc orbiting a star. In the z (vertical) direction there is a hydrostatic equilibrium.

\frac{1}{ρ}\frac{∂P}{∂z} = -\frac{GMz}{(R^{2} + z^{2})^{3/2}}

The right hand side of the expression is the Gravitational potential energy and the left side is the pressure gradient.

Can someone explain to me how the pressure gradient works in an accretion disc as I don't understand how the pressure gradient of an accretion disc is strong enough to equal the gravitational potential energy of the star?

http://www.maths.qmul.ac.uk/~rpn/ASTM735/lecture3.pdf

More information is on Section 3.3.1 in the lecture note.
 
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You're interpreting the equation in a wrong way. The pressure gradient DOES NOT balance the gravitational potential of the central object. The gravitational potential is actually balanced by the centrifugal forces, not the pressure gradient. And this balance is not described by the equation you wrote but rather the radial balance equation (the radial component of the Navier-Stokes equations)

The Hydrostatic equilibrium equation however is simply the Navier-Stokes equation in the vertical direction. It clearly does not say that the pressure gradient balances the gravitational force (notice that the gradient is wrt the vertical direction). If you replace ∂p by ∂rho Cs^2 and in the limit of a thin disc (z<<R) this gives you the density gradient as a function of the square of the keplerian angular velocity times the vertical distance from the disc plan. Which can then be solved to give you the vertical density profile (which turns out to be Gaussian).

So simply what the vertical balance (hydrostatic equilibrium) is telling us is that the vertical density profile is Gaussian and for a disc to be thin the disc rotation has to be highly supersonic i.e Vk/Cs=R/H where Vk is the Keplerian rotation velocity, Cs is the sound speed and H is the disc thickness.
 
Jamipat said:
Can someone explain to me how the pressure gradient works in an accretion disc as I don't understand how the pressure gradient of an accretion disc is strong enough to equal the gravitational potential energy of the star?
If you have an accretion disk that is in hydrostatic equilibrium, the vertical pressure must balance the vertical gravitational force---as the equation says. This will generally occur by establishing an appropriate density-profile in the vertical direction (same ideas as what HossamCFD says at one point).

If the pressure wasn't strong enough to resist gravity, the disk would collapse towards the mid-plane, and during the collapse the pressure increases---until it is strong enough to prevent further collapse.

HossamCFD said:
The pressure gradient DOES NOT balance the gravitational potential of the central object. The gravitational potential is actually balanced by the centrifugal forces, not the pressure gradient. And this balance is not described by the equation you wrote but rather the radial balance equation (the radial component of the Navier-Stokes equations)
You're talking about the radial-equilibrium equation. The OP is concerned with the vertical equilibrium condition---which is unaffected by the centrifugal force.
 
zhermes said:
If you have an accretion disk that is in hydrostatic equilibrium, the vertical pressure must balance the vertical gravitational force---as the equation says. This will generally occur by establishing an appropriate density-profile in the vertical direction (same ideas as what HossamCFD says at one point).

If the pressure wasn't strong enough to resist gravity, the disk would collapse towards the mid-plane, and during the collapse the pressure increases---until it is strong enough to prevent further collapse.

For an accretion disk, I thought its angular momentum was preventing the star's gravity from pulling it.
 
The force of gravity acting on a region of gas is directed towards the star. If the gas is exactly in the orbital plane, that force will be directed exactly radially inward (toward the star). If the gas is slightly above or below the orbital plane, there will be a strong radial component of the gravitational force (directed toward the star), but also a small component of the gravitational force in the vertical direction (directed towards the orbital plane).

The radial component is balanced by the centrifugal force. Another way of thinking about the same effect, is that the gas's angular momentum keeps it orbiting (and not being pulled inwards).

The vertical component (the "z"-component) of the force is balanced by the pressure of the disk. This is the equation that you gave in your original post.
 
zhermes said:
You're talking about the radial-equilibrium equation. The OP is concerned with the vertical equilibrium condition---which is unaffected by the centrifugal force.

I say so explicitly in the very same paragraph you quoted.


I had to mention the radial equilibrium because the OP was concerned about what force balances the gravitational potential (i.e prevent the material from falling onto the central object).
 
zhermes said:
The force of gravity acting on a region of gas is directed towards the star. If the gas is exactly in the orbital plane, that force will be directed exactly radially inward (toward the star). If the gas is slightly above or below the orbital plane, there will be a strong radial component of the gravitational force (directed toward the star), but also a small component of the gravitational force in the vertical direction (directed towards the orbital plane).

The radial component is balanced by the centrifugal force. Another way of thinking about the same effect, is that the gas's angular momentum keeps it orbiting (and not being pulled inwards).

The vertical component (the "z"-component) of the force is balanced by the pressure of the disk. This is the equation that you gave in your original post.

At the vertical direction, shoudn't the gravitational force be -\frac{GM}{z^{2}} instead of \frac{GMz}{(R^{2} + z^{2})^{3/2}} as the gravitational force is acting in the z direction.
 
The source of gravity is still the central star. Draw it out---where R is the radial distance from the star to the location on the disk-midplane; and z is the distance above the mid-plane.
Use trigonometry to find the vertical component.
 
Jamipat said:
At the vertical direction, shoudn't the gravitational force be -\frac{GM}{z^{2}} instead of \frac{GMz}{(R^{2} + z^{2})^{3/2}} as the gravitational force is acting in the z direction.


the gravitational potential ∅ equals -GM/r

where r is the spherical radius i.e. r=√(R^2+z^2)

Thus ∂∅/∂z is as stated: \frac{GMz}{(R^{2} + z^{2})^{3/2}}
 
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zhermes said:
The source of gravity is still the central star. Draw it out---where R is the radial distance from the star to the location on the disk-midplane; and z is the distance above the mid-plane.
Use trigonometry to find the vertical component.

HossamCFD said:
the gravitational potential ∅ equals -GM/r

where r is the spherical radius i.e. r=√(R^2+z^2)

Thus ∂∅/∂z is as stated: \frac{GMz}{(R^{2} + z^{2})^{3/2}}

Thanks for your help guys.
 

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