Hyperbola Transformations in Clapeyron-Mendeleev Coordinates

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In Clapeyron-Mendeleev coordinates (p-V), the isotherm transformation of an ideal gas is represented by an arc of a hyperbola, specifically defined by the equation x²/a² - y²/b² = 1. The discussion clarifies that the relationship between the hyperbola and the equation pV = constant can be understood through the transformation y = 1/x, which also describes a hyperbola. Additionally, the transformation of coordinates to u = x + y and v = x - y maintains the hyperbolic nature of the graph, demonstrating that hyperbolas retain their shape regardless of rotation or translation.

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Back in 10th degree, I have learned that in Clapeyron-Mendeleev coordinates ( eq: p-V) , an Isotherm transformation of an ideal gas ( with constant mass throughout the transformation ) is represented with an arc of an hyperbola. Now, I have learned that hyperbola equation is : x2 / a2 - y2/b2 = 1 ( or written in the other way, with y2 as first term ) . This equation , plotted, result in a different type of graphic as I learned on T=constant transformation ! My question is why I used to draw the curbe line graph in p-V coordinates of an equation like y=1/x ? ( as pV= constant ) , saying that it is a hyperbola? What has got to do with an arc of hyperbola? Thank you !
 
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If you have the curve given by ## x^2 - y^2 = 1## and you rotate it 45 degrees around the origin, what do you get?
 
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As a variant of DEvens's post, suppose you define u=x+y and v=x-y. What is the curve in terms of u and v?
 
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Thank you for your responses !
@DEvens :yes, I realized that x^2−y^2=1 shifted by π/4 radians results in my desired part of graph, but... something is not clear in my mind. How can I assume that I can rotate the graph and still get something mathematically valid? There's something not clear in my mind...
@robphy : in terms of u and v, u*v = x^2-y^2 =constant =1 , as in a normal isotherm. But from the (x,y) coordinates , I can define a new system of coordinates, given by (x+y, x-y ) ? Just like when I shift by π/4 radians the normal hyperbola graph?
 
A hyperbola is shape, not a function.
Focus on the curve, and forget about the axes.

Drawn on a piece of paper, that curve is a hyperbola... no matter how you slide, reflect, or rotate the piece of paper.
 
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