Hyperbolic Manifold With Geodesic Boundary?

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The discussion centers on the construction of a hyperbolic surface with geodesic boundaries, specifically focusing on metrics of constant sectional curvature -1. Participants explore the implications of genus constraints, the Gauss-Bonnet theorem, and methods such as gluing pairs of pants to achieve the desired surface properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that there are genus constraints for the surface and questions whether this relates to the Gauss-Bonnet theorem.
  • Another participant explains that every compact hyperbolic surface without boundary is a quotient of the Poincare disk by a group of isometries, and suggests removing a geodesic polygon to create a surface with geodesic boundary.
  • Classical surfaces with constant negative Gauss curvature, such as the tractroid and Dini's surface, are mentioned as potential examples for slicing to obtain geodesic boundaries.
  • A definition of a manifold with totally geodesic boundary is provided, detailing the requirements for an atlas and the nature of the boundary components.
  • There is a question about whether removing a geodesic polygon from the Poincare disk results in a surface with totally geodesic boundary, and if this relates to the quotient metric.
  • Another participant agrees with the previous point and adds that cutting a tractroid can yield a surface of constant negative curvature with geodesic boundary, and suggests slicing a hyperbolic manifold along closed geodesic circles for surfaces of higher genus.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the construction of hyperbolic surfaces with geodesic boundaries, with no clear consensus reached on the methods or implications discussed. Multiple competing ideas and approaches remain present in the conversation.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about genus and the specific conditions under which the Gauss-Bonnet theorem applies. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the nature of the boundaries and the implications of the quotient metric.

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Hi All,
I am trying to figure out the details on giving a surface S a hyperbolic metric with geodesic boundary, i.e., a metric of constant sectional curvature -1 so that the (manifold) boundary components, i.e., a collection of disjoint simple-closed curves are geodesics under this metric. So far I know:

1) There are genus constraints for the surface. Does this have to see with Gauss-Bonnet?

2) Something; not sure exactly what, can be done by gluing pairs-of-pants http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_of_pants_(mathematics )
but not fully sure how this works.

Not much more. Any ideas, refs., please?
 
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Not sure what you mean by the genus of a surface with boundary but maybe this will help.

Every compact hyperbolic surface without boundary that has constant Gauss curvature, -1, is the quotient of the Poincare disk by a group of isometries. Remove a small geodesic polygon from the disk and the quotient will be a surface of constant negative curvature with a geodesic boundary.

For surfaces, the Gauss curvature times the volume element is cohomologous to the Euler class. One can see this from the Gauss Bonnet theorem or more simply by observing that the connection 1 form on the tangent circle bundle is a global angular form so its exterior derivative is the pullback (under the bundle projection map) of the Euler class.

It follows that the Euler characteristic of a hyperbolic surface is always negative so this rules out the torus and the sphere. It is a simple exercise show that also must be even.
 
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There are classical surfaces in 3 space that have constant negative Gauss curvature. Examples are the tractroid and Dini's surface.

See if you can slice off part of one of these with a geodesic knife to get a surface with geodesic boundary.
 
Thanks Lavinia, for the sake of completeness, let me state the definition of manifold M with totally geodesic boundary is:

A manifold M with non-empty boundary that admits an atlas {## \phi_{\alpha}: U_{\alpha} \rightarrow B_{\alpha} ##} to hyperbolic half-spaces bounded by geodesic hyperplanes ##H_{\alpha} \subset \mathbb H^n ## so that {## U_{\alpha} ##} covers M and every chart satisfies ##\phi_{\alpha}(U_{\alpha} \cap \partial M)=\phi_{\alpha}(U_{\alpha} \cap H_{\alpha}) ## , and overlap maps are restrictions of isometries.
 
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lavinia said:
Not sure what you mean by the genus of a surface with boundary but maybe this will help.

Every compact hyperbolic surface without boundary that has constant Gauss curvature, -1, is the quotient of the Poincare disk by a group of isometries. Remove a small geodesic polygon from the disk and the quotient will be a surface of constant negative curvature with a geodesic boundary.

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Do you mean, if g is the geodesic polygon and P is the Poincare disk , that (P-g)/g has geodesic boundary, and so will this have totally geodesic boundary, i.e., will every boundary component (a simple-closed curve here) be a geodesic?
If so, is this I guess the quotient metric?
Thanks.
 
WWGD said:
Do you mean, if g is the geodesic polygon and P is the Poincare disk , that (P-g)/g has geodesic boundary, and so will this have totally geodesic boundary, i.e., will every boundary component (a simple-closed curve here) be a geodesic?
If so, is this I guess the quotient metric?
Thanks.
Yes.

- I think also that with a tractroid you can cut off a neighborhood of the singular circle to get a surface in 3 space of constant negative curvature and geodesic boundary.- You could also just slice a hyperbolic manifold without boundary along one or more closed geodesic circles. For a surface of genus 2, three circles suitably chosen would give you your pair of pants.
 
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