I am not sure to either be a biologist or docoter?

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The discussion revolves around a participant's uncertainty about choosing between pursuing a career as a medical doctor or focusing on biology. The conversation explores the implications of each path, including the challenges of medical school and the appeal of biological sciences, particularly gene therapy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a newfound interest in biology after previously having little exposure to science, indicating a desire to learn more and possibly pursue a biology class.
  • Another participant questions the validity of making a career decision based on only a few days of interest in biology.
  • Some participants note the importance of a solid biology background for medical school, suggesting that the first few years of study may be similar regardless of the chosen path.
  • A participant mentions that gene therapy is primarily in the research phase and not widely practiced by medical doctors, indicating a distinction between biological research and clinical application.
  • One participant shares their experience as a pre-med student, highlighting the significant time commitment and competitive nature of medical school admissions.
  • Another participant reflects on the discouragement from a physician regarding pursuing a medical career, suggesting that a PhD in biology could still lead to a career in gene therapy.
  • There is a discussion about the variability in medical school admissions standards, with some schools being perceived as easier to enter than others.
  • Several participants encourage the original poster to take introductory biology and chemistry classes to better inform their decision about their future career path.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of support and skepticism regarding the original poster's career decision. While some encourage exploration of biology, others caution against making a decision too quickly based on limited experience. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the original poster.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the medical field and the nature of gene therapy, as well as the varying requirements for medical school admissions that are not fully explored.

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Hello, I was kind of stuck between becoming a medical doctor or going after biology all the way. Although I am leaning towards biology since med school is super expensive..I just don't know. You know what's funny? I was never interested in science until about four days ago because of my autism.

In high school I was just mostly in special ed and never has chemistry, physics, cal, or biology classes. When I woke up one day about 4 days ago I decided to look up biology (Because I was bored and had nothing else to do.) So I looked at some things and was like "Meh.." didn't get interested until I got more curious and looked at lectures on Youtube.

Quiet frankly I can't stop thinking of biology, I want to learn some chemistry too since it goes so well with it. Biology hunts my dreams and I always ask questions about it. (I am 21 by the way and went to one college class and it was about religion and such)

I also was thinking of becoming a doctor too, but I am just really dragged with biology. If I was going to go to med school I would become a gene therapy. What is your guys opinions? I am really curious

I want to Thank anyone who is willing to help. :)
 
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biologyboy89 said:
I was never interested in science until about four days ago

What?

How are you going to decide your career with only 4 days of casual interest behind you?
 
Well, I don't think I consider it casual interest anymore. I am seriously into it, going to take a biology class. Even though it was only four days it has changed a lot about the way I think. Biology is awesome! Knowing how your cells work and how they produce and destroy stuff; its really pretty awesome its like a totally different world.
 
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You generally need a very solid biology background to be accepted to medical school, so whichever route you take is pretty much the same for the first several years. You can decide which you want to do for graduate/professional school as you go.

As for gene therapy, this is really new technology that, as far as I know, no M.D. actually practices outside of a few clinical trials that have been done. It's still in the stages of biology/science rather than clinical implementation for the most part. I would imagine that Ph.D.'s in a biological science do most of the gene therapy work at this point.
 
So, I'm currently a pre-med that is applying to med school pretty soon, so if you have questions, go ahead and ask.

I'll be honest with you. Becoming a doctor is a ridiculous time commitment and a serious pain in the butt, if you aren't 1000% in it. It will take you 4-5 years to get all of your pre-requisites, plus a ton of shadowing physicians, plus a lot of community service. Also, with little exception, you need a cumulative GPA of AT LEAST 3.7/4.0 and an MCAT score of at least 30.

Please understand that I'm not trying to dissuade you from doing it, but you have to realize that only 43% of applicants get into med school, which may seem like a lot, but that also means that over half of the applicants get turned down. Just something to keep in mind.

Again, feel free to ask any questions you like. :)
 
Thanks for your guys help again, I might just stick to the way of biology and not get into the medical field. My mothers friend who is a physician who specializes in allergy and immunology kind of discourage anyone to become a medical doctor really. I didn't know gene therapy wasn't medical (yet) So I can still do it if I get a PhD In biology right?

Also on the other hand I read that medical schools are different from each other and some are easier to get in then others. Again I might just stick to biology since its so awesome and I love it.
 
biologyboy89 said:
I didn't know gene therapy wasn't medical (yet) So I can still do it if I get a PhD In biology right?

Well, I would still consider it "medical" but (as far as I know) it's not like you can walk into a clinic and have gene therapy treatment done. I have heard of some unsuccessful clinical trials done for a few things, but that's really all I know about it. I do know of at least one new technology that allows for site specific gene modifications (zinc finger nucleases), which is a big deal for gene therapy.

It seems like gene therapy is more in the research and development stage rather than the clinical stage. Research this on your own to be sure, but I would think if you want to get into the field of gene therapy a PhD would serve you better unless you really want to do the clinical trials of gene therapy. And I don't have the first clue as to what specialty of medicine would do clinical gene therapy; and if there is one I bet whoever does gene therapy has a really strong research foundation in the relevant biological sciences.
 
biologyboy89 said:
Well, I don't think I consider it casual interest anymore. I am seriously into it, going to take a biology class.

A good time to start thinking about this is after you've finished this class.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
A good time to start thinking about this is after you've finished this class.

I believe you are right, maybe I am really am jumping the gun here. I guess I got just too excited, before I take the class though I am going to do some prep biology stuff so I know some stuff when I go in since I have a learning disability (Gonna talk to them about my disability anyways but I still want to do it.)
 
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I think that's a good idea. Take some bio and chem classes and see how you like them, then decide if you can handle that type of courseload and stress. :)

I wish you the best, man. Never hesitate to ask questions! I guess I can't speak for all of us, since I'm a noob here, but I'm always willing to answer any questions you have about the medical field to the best of my knowledge.
 

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