I don't distinguish gravity and centripetal acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a thought experiment related to Newton's concepts of gravity and centripetal acceleration, specifically involving a cannon firing projectiles from a tall mountain. Participants explore the relationship between the initial velocity of the cannonballs and their resulting trajectories, questioning how gravity can act as a centripetal force under certain conditions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conditions under which gravity can provide the necessary centripetal force for circular motion. There is exploration of the specific initial velocity required for a projectile to maintain a circular orbit versus other types of trajectories.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various interpretations of the relationship between centripetal acceleration and gravitational force. Some participants affirm the connection, while others provide additional context regarding the implications of different velocities on the trajectory of the projectiles.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the conceptual nature of the problem, with participants noting the specific conditions under which different trajectories occur, such as circular, elliptical, and parabolic paths based on the initial speed of the cannonballs.

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Homework Statement


There is a famous thought experiment that Newton put forward: imagine a very tall mountain where there is no air friction. We'll put a cannon on top of this mountain, and we'll fire cannon balls put of with greater and greater velocities in the horizontal direction.
Let's say we don't shoot practically at all. The ball comes out, and almost inmediately falls into the Earth. The more initial velocity, the later it falls.
At the right speed, the ball will never fall. Better said, it falls at the right rate, and it will describe an orbit around the Earth.
¿Which is the relation between centripetal acceleration and gravity, in each example?

Homework Equations


The formula that expresses the acceleration towards the Earth is a=\frac{v^2}{r}. And there is gravity 9,8\;m/s^2, which is a constant

The Attempt at a Solution


It's a conceptual doubt, so no idea
 
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So if v2 / r = 9.8 you are in business, right ?
Because then the Earth provides the required centripetal force !
 
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So, given the right velocity to a particle, gravity will become centripetal force, isn't it?
 
Correct!
 
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Note that exactly only one initial speed ("v2 / r = 9.8") gives you a circular trajectory, anything above (up to about 10000 m/s) an elliptical trajectory, then a parabola for higher v. See Newton's_cannonball[/PLAIN]
 
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