I plan to apply for PhD program on 2025 Fall. What do you think?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around an international student's plans to apply for PhD programs in Experimental AMO physics and Photonics within Electrical and Computer Engineering (ECE) departments for the Fall 2025 semester. Participants provide feedback on the student's academic background, school choices, and concerns regarding application components such as GRE and TOEFL scores.

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Main Points Raised

  • The student has a Major GPA of 3.74/4.0, which they equate to 3.91/4.0 in the American system, but one participant contests this equivalence.
  • Concerns are raised about the ranking of the student's undergraduate institution in China compared to U.S. institutions, with one participant suggesting that a top 10 ranking in China does not equate to a similar standing in the U.S.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the necessity of GRE scores, with one participant noting that about 20% of schools require them, while others do not consider them at all.
  • The student's TOEFL score of 98 is discussed, with a participant indicating that this score may limit opportunities, particularly for teaching assistantships, as many programs require a minimum of 100.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the student's choice of schools, suggesting that institutions like Michigan and Cornell may attract applicants with stronger qualifications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the student's academic qualifications, the relevance of GRE scores, and the implications of the TOEFL score. There is no consensus on the appropriateness of the student's school choices or the competitiveness of their application.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the student's application components, such as the potential impact of the TOEFL score on funding opportunities and the varying importance of GRE scores across different programs.

Who May Find This Useful

International students considering PhD applications in STEM fields, particularly those from non-U.S. institutions, may find the discussion relevant.

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Hello everyone, I plan to apply for PhD program on 2025Fall. I am an international student from China, and I want to apply in the field of Experimental AMO physics and Photonics in ECE department.

My Major GPA is 3.74/4.0(which in American GPA calculation system is 3.91/4.0), ranking 3/19 in my major. My previous research is based on the Laser frequency stabilization, electronic devices adjusting and setup a new Rydberg atom lab(for the laser system and cooling system.)

[Resume with personal information redacted by the Mentors]

My TOEFL scores is 98 with 22 speaking scores, and I don't have GRE scores and P GRE scores. I looked through that many programs don't need or accept GRE scores, but I am not sure whether to test or not.

My undergraduate school is ranking top10 in China, and is not sensitive to the US visa. However, due to the major sensitivity, I am planning to apply for the fields which are not related to quantum computing, such as photonics, cold atoms, etc.

Here is my initial school choice. for PhD program
Cornell(applied physics)
Rice(applied physics)
University of Washington(ECE)
Georgia Institute of Technology(Physics)
UIUC(physics,ECE)
University of Michigan(physics)
University of Southern California(ECE)
Purdue University(physics)

Can anyone give me some suggestions on my background and my school list and the major choice? I am so nervous about being rejected by all the schools. Thank you all guys with the sincerest heart!!!

By the way, I will apply for some master programs in ECE. Can someone recommend universities with cheaper tuition fees according to my background? Thank you again for your kind suggestions!
 
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Tianyi Wang said:
My Major GPA is 3.74/4.0(which in American GPA calculation system is 3.91/4.0)
No. In the "American system" it will be 3.74/4.0.

Further "Top 10 in China" is not the same as "Top 10 in the US." I dislike rankings, but Wuhan is #9 or #10 in China, and would be perhaps #50 in the US and Canada.

Tianyi Wang said:
I looked through that many programs don't need or accept GRE scores, but I am not sure whether to test or not.
About 20% of schools require it, 20% don't consider it, and 60% do consider it. It's your choice, but let me tell you that there are very few schools out there saying "We could use some more students from China. Maybe we should cut this one a break."

Tianyi Wang said:
My TOEFL scores is 98
Which will exclude you from many places that require 100+. Worse, it will exclude you from teaching assistantships in many places that will technically accept you. How do you plan to pay for this in that case?

I think you are shooting way too high. Michigan and Cornell can fill their entire classes with Chinese students with better grades, better English skills and who attended better undergraduate institutions.
 
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