Ok, again just to clarify a few points, first of all maybe I was bit wrong about the coal vs building solar panels in terms of emissions spent , yet anyway if coal is over and oil also then we have to produce electricity somehow different , the only way I see it would be possible to just try to supply the whole world with just renewables is that if and only if every country in the world uses their natural potential to it's fullest, for example in Africa you can have tons of solar , in other places wind + solar , then countries with much forests can use cogeneration , also we could burn some of our household trash using gas ovens , I know one local garbage yard uses this to produce some electricity and the rest goes to heat for heating greenhouses that grow food.
but this is in the perfect scenario if everyone agrees to work as one team and we develop a world wide plan and if all the things fall in the right way, I'd say it's harder than achieving Communism and pushing the naturally egoistic human to become a progress and advancment driven perfect machine that doesn't steal nor is lazy anymore , it would also require to increase the IQ of atleast 50% of society.
I'm not against green energy but as you see there are some reasons why I feel it's not fully possible , humans are such animals that they can never fully agree to cooperate nor understand something complicated alltogether.
A nuclear reactor on the other hand is a much more "humanly" thing in terms of that it can be built by a private company kept by it and located on a rather small piece of land at a specific location and doesn't require a world wide movement to keep it useful , it's already useful for those who use it even if the neighbor decides to go all coal.
But we can definitely do so much more in terms of making new buildings with solar panels as a design element into facades also making them more efficient so less energy is used etc etc and this all is slowly but steadily happening and becoming the new norm and I think that in itself is a rather big achievement.As for Chernobyl , yes the lights were out in reactor number 4 but quite frankly and this is what I tried to say earlier that didn't matter in that case whether the lights were there or not or whether they had dosimeters or not , I'm not for killing reactor workers intentionally but what I said and you must know this also since you say you have read many papers on the case , that the situation was so much " through the roof" and " out of this world" that no safety features would have helped them beyond that point , they crossed the point of no return. Fukushima was much less severe of an accident and they might really have benefited from some extra gear , but in Chernobyl the whole 4th reactor was obliterated , the radiation levels were so high that even if the workers had any dosimeters they would have fallen to the ground before they had the chance to take some meaningful readings.
those working near the reactor hall fell ill minutes after what happened if they hadn't been burned otherwise or some of them buried under the heavy tons of steel and concrete.
the rest , including the operators in the control room had no chance of survival either no matter what you would have given them. they reached their maximum allowed dose in what ? few minutes i think , everything beyond that and they died one by one in the hospital.I have been physically in the building of an RBMK unit , the corridors and hallways are so long and sometimes labyrinth like that even if they had ran seconds before the thing blew they would have still got probably lethal doses.
So I'm just saying that once you have all the perfect parameters set for the reactor to go 100x times its power max level and with no control rods inserted you basically have a bomb and nothing can help from there on.
Chernobyl was also so much more tragic because in Fukushima for example the reactors melted down under a shut down state , in Chernobyl the reactor blew at it's absolute maximum , not the maximum working power but rather the maximum power a pile of weakly enriched uranium stacked into 1600+ channels can give you in a short moment before it's brute force rips the critical mass apart , only here the rupturing steam pipes blew first.if the steam pipes would not have blown the reactor top also expanding the fuel channels maybe the fuel could have given an even stronger burst.As for the lights going out , I want to make a funny comparison that just came to mind , if you think lights going out was a problem there then maybe you would also say that , "Hey, if someone drops an H bomb on my city , make sure the lights don't go out because I will need to see my way out from the mile deep crater that I will be in together with my bed that I'm supposedly still sleeping in"
I really think those people there went across the line and had no chance of coming back.
Meanwhile workers at control room at unit 3 right next to the big smoking hole were given iodine pills and said to keep on working , but quite frankly what choice they had ? leave everything as is and run for their lives , in that case suppose another blast in reactor 3 might have been a probable scenario.
+ running would have probably given them even higher does than sitting in a big reinforced concrete shell.
Oh another thing , there was no "organization" running the reactors , there was no organization running anything in the soviet union except for a few small shops and restaurants , all important infrastructure was strictly state controlled with such important places like nuclear reactors and hydro power plants not to mention top secret government military facilities.Every NPP in the Soviet union was state controlled with even as far as KGB agents sitting in their rooms watching a close eye on all staff, heck every factory and institution had atleast one agent monitoring everything, usually many , yes I agree it would have been better if the staff kept just as much of a watch over the reactor as the agents kept it over them.
this is the problem in a country were everything is state run , it's better because people were so much more afraid from doing wrong because they knew serious consequences would follow but also because the whole apparatus was so big in many cases important parts were not given the full attention to detail they required.
But after all, Three Mile Island was privately run , Fukishima also , and that doesn't guarantee no accidents , Chernobyl was only worse not because it was run by communists or not because it was run by an "organization" but simply because a ton of factors all came together in the worst possible way.
As I said it was like winning a lottery For those who believe in the supernatural maybe it was a must have event to help bring the Soviet Union to an otherwise long ahead and slow end.
This is not far from the truth since the cleanup was the most expensive cleanup operation ever until that point in time , also falling oil prices in the end of the 80's. even though the latter was probably somewhat intentional move from the west to finally try to destroy it's biggest threat and enemy at the same time.P.S. Sorry for me writing a book in a single post :D
@Jim , your mom subscribed to Russia Today ? When in 1986 ?
I think subscribing or getting soviet literature in the cold war America probably got one under the watch of CIA.
God forbid my mom having even a dream of western literature back in the 60's , her neighbor would have felt it in his sleep and went to report to the KGB's field office the next day :D
But in all honesty everyone reported everyone else and basically this is what made the system so genius and all powerful , the system managed to recruit even those who hated it.
In Soviet Russia magazines subscribe to you... :D
