News IAEA: No Iranian nuclear arms plans

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The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has found no evidence supporting U.S. claims of a secret Iranian nuclear weapons program. This situation raises concerns about potential military action against Iran, reminiscent of the lead-up to the Iraq War. Some participants argue that Iran poses no direct threat to the U.S. and that any conflict would primarily serve Israeli interests. Discussions highlight the U.S. military's current overextension, financial constraints, and the political unlikelihood of Congress approving military action without UN backing. Additionally, Iran's military capabilities are noted as significantly stronger than Iraq's, complicating any potential conflict. The conversation also touches on the historical context of U.S. military decisions and the logistical challenges faced during previous conflicts, emphasizing the complexities involved in predicting future military engagements.
  • #31
Sure. The posts of:
09-03-2004, 03:00 AM
09-05-2004, 09:20 PM
 
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  • #32
Adam said:
As a former soldier, I can tell you that when the enemy has been expecting your attack for months, but has no viable way of stopping you, moving forward at 20mph or 40mph won't make any difference; going tomorrow instead of today won't make any difference. I'd rather do it properly, on a full belly, and with fuel. Better than running out half way there, leaving us vulnerable to enemy attack.

You just described why the element of surprise is so powerful. You believe the iraqis couldn't be surprised anymore? Thats exactly what hostage takers think before they get stormed by swat teams. They know theyre there, waiting to burst in, still theyre surprised.
The ppl with a memory uncluttered by conspiracy theories and hatred will remember the complete surprise of the world when they saw american tanks driving down central Bagdad. They knew it would happen, just not that fast. You can pretend there was no surprise Adam, but i advise you to keep this to yourself.
 
  • #33
Adam said:
Sure. The posts of:
09-03-2004, 03:00 AM
09-05-2004, 09:20 PM

You made no such statement in these posts.
 
  • #34
Adam said:
As a former soldier...
You mean a former sailor, right?
 
  • #35
studentx said:
You just described why the element of surprise is so powerful.

There was no surprise from the huge mechanised push from the south, which all of Iraq knew was there and moving from the first day.
 
  • #36
russ_watters said:
You mean a former sailor, right?

I was navy, yes. Are navy personnel not soldiers in your country? Do they use civilians instead?
 
  • #37
Very astute!
russ_watters said:
You mean a former sailor, right?
Adam said:
I was navy, yes…
Soldier? Sailor? Cub Scout?

Obviously Adam cannot tell us this:
Originally Posted by Adam
As a former soldier, I can tell you that when the enemy has been expecting your attack for months, but has no viable way of stopping you, moving forward at 20mph or 40mph won't make any difference;
 
  • #38
Are you saying navy personnel are not soldiers? Yes or no?
 
  • #39
Wow, 3 pages of bickering, this is amusing.
 
  • #40
That's what internet message boards are for! :D
 
  • #41
Adam said:
Are you saying navy personnel are not soldiers? Yes or no?
I've never met a sailor that would refer to himself as a "soldier." Most would be insulted by the insinuation that he was in the Army.
 
  • #42
I have. Not every nation separates their Military into Air Force Army and Navy
 
  • #43
Some have more than those three branches of the military.

Here, the navy is the senior branch of the military. However, there is quite a lot of crossover training and work. After all, we have only 75,000 personnel to protect about seven and a half million square kilometres (in comparison, the USA has over 1.3 million personnel to protect around nine and a half million square kilometres). Which means, yes, I did the marching around in the middle of nowhere for days on end with minimal supplies, shooting, and pages of other things. Actually I did more training than the infantry do (particularly now, since the training in all three branches has been made so much easier). In fact I did more training than an old USA military associate who did both army and marines training.

And the fun part is that I'm the only one among my little social group who is qualified to put a Harpoon missile into someone's ship. Oh, and I'm not allowed to have anaesthetic or talk in my sleep without a superior officer present. Honestly, sometimes I think the whole military/government thing is the biggest joke we humans ever played on ourselves. :D
 
  • #44
I know that the USSR had all of them grouped in one with a compeletely different command structure than we in the west have. I think its more efficient.
 

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