Ideal gas subject to central potential [Statistical Mech]

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The problem involves an ideal gas of N particles contained in a spherical vessel under the influence of a central potential that is proportional to the distance from the center. Participants are tasked with calculating the pressure of the gas and the density of particles at the surface, while navigating the complexities of the Hamiltonian and partition function in statistical mechanics.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the Hamiltonian and the implications of the potential on the partition function. Questions arise regarding the integration limits and the presence of volume in the calculations. Some participants suggest that the integral should yield terms related to the radius and volume, while others express concerns about the handling of variables like R in the equations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the integration process and the relationship between R and volume. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the results in terms of volume rather than radius, indicating a productive direction without a clear consensus yet.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to express variables in a way that aligns with physical interpretations of volume and pressure, while adhering to the rules of statistical mechanics.

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The problem says: Consider an ideal gas of N particles in a spherical vessel of radius R. A force acts directly over the molecules and is directly proportional to the distance to the center of the sphere ##V(r)=\alpha r##. Calculate the pressure of the gas, and the density of particles at the surface.

So I set the Hamiltonian: ##\displaystyle H= \sum_i^N \frac{p_i^2}{2m}+\sum_i^N \alpha r_i##

Then, as the potential is independent of the momentum, I can take ##Z=\frac{1}{N!}Z_1^N##, where ##Z_1## represents the partition function for only one molecule.

Then:

##\displaystyle Z_1=\frac{1}{h^3}\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{-\beta \frac{p^2}{2m}}\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}\int_{0}^{R} dr d \phi d \theta r^2 \sin \theta e^{-\beta \alpha r}##

Now, the pressure in the canonical ensemble is proportional to the derivative with respect to the volume of the natural logarithm of the partition function. And the thing is I don't have any volume anywhere in there (I've done the integral, and I don't get the volume), so I get a pressure equal to zero. Something is wrong with what I've done.

Help please.
 
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Can you show how the ##\int_0^R r^2 e^{-\beta\alpha r}## does not leave some power of R in Z ?
 
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BvU is correct. You should end up with terms like exp(-R) and polynomials in R. Since it's a sphere you know that R is proportional to the cube root of the volume.
 
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The integral gives: ##\displaystyle 4\pi \frac{e^{-\beta \alpha R}}{(\beta \alpha)^3} \left [ (\beta \alpha R)^2+ 2 \beta \alpha R + 2\right ]##

Now, the volume of the sphere is ##V=\frac{4\pi}{3}R^3## I could arrange this to get the volume in the polynomials of R:

##\displaystyle Z_1=\left ( \frac{2\pi m}{\beta h^2} \right ) \frac{\exp\left [-\beta \alpha \frac{3}{4 \pi R^2}V\right ]}{(\beta \alpha)^3}\displaystyle \left [ (\beta \alpha)^2\frac{3}{R}V+ 2 \beta \alpha \frac{3}{R^2}V + 2\right ]##

I've used that ##R=\frac{4\pi}{3}R^3 \frac{3}{4 \pi R^3}R=V\frac{3}{4 \pi R^2}##

And then the pŕessure ##\displaystyle p=k_B T \frac{\partial \ln Z}{\partial V}##

Is that right?
 
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You would really want to eliminate R--in favor of a term like V^(1/3)--from the expression entirely. It's also probably easier to use the chain rule here. Take a derivative with respect to R and then multiply by dR/dV.
 
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Yes. I thought it was a bad idea to have all those R all around, but I didn't want to introduce the cube root neither :P

Thanks.
 

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