Identify Bottles: Lead Nitrate, HCl, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Carbonate

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The discussion revolves around identifying four chemical solutions based on their reactions with each other. Participants analyze the potential contents of the bottles labeled as lead nitrate, hydrochloric acid, copper sulfate, and sodium carbonate, exploring the reactions that occur when these substances are mixed.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that bottle 1 is lead nitrate, as it is the only metal that forms a precipitate with the other anions.
  • Another participant suggests that bottles 3 and 4 contain copper sulfate and sodium carbonate, respectively, due to the formation of a blue precipitate.
  • A participant states that bottles 2 and 3 contain hydrochloric acid and sodium carbonate, respectively, because the reaction of acid with metal produces salt and hydrogen gas.
  • One participant questions why hydrogen gas does not evolve when hydrochloric acid is added to lead nitrate and copper(II) sulfate.
  • Another participant corrects the first by stating that sodium carbonate is not a metal and that the gas produced is not hydrogen, but rather carbon dioxide and water.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the reactions, including the expected precipitates and gases produced in various combinations of the bottles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the identification of the bottles and the reactions that occur, but there are corrections and clarifications regarding the nature of the gases produced and the specific reactions, indicating that some aspects of the discussion remain unresolved.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the reactions and the definitions of the substances involved. Some reactions are described without fully resolving the expected outcomes.

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This discussion may be useful for students studying chemistry, particularly those interested in reaction mechanisms and identifying chemical substances based on their properties and reactions.

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Homework Statement



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Identify the bottles

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The Attempt at a Solution



Bottle 1 is lead nitrate as lead is the only metal that will form a precipitate with the other anions.

Bottle 3+4 = copper sulfate + sodium carbonate -- because it produces blue precipitate

Bottle 2+3 = hydrochloric acid + sodium carbonate -- as acid + metal = salt + hydrogen gas.

This means sodium carbonate is bottle 3, hydrochloric acid is bottle 2, and copper sulfate is bottle 4. Can someone check this?

If this is correct, out of interest, why doesn't hydrogen gas evolve when HCl is added to lead nitrate and copper(II) sulfate?

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2+3 : Sodium carbonate is not a metal and the gas is not hydrogen.
That should also explain why HCl does not produce a gas with PbNO3 or CuSO4
 
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I see, I forgot. CO2 and water are evolved, not H2! Other than that, is the rest of the answers correct?

Cheers!
 
If I have deduced correctly from your statements, you are saying;
1 - PbNO3
2 -HCl
3- Na2CO3
4 - CuSO4

So that means;
1 & 2 is lead nitrate + HCl -> white precipitate of
1 & 3 is lead nitrate + sodium carbonate -> white precipitate of
1 & 4 is lead nitrate + copper sulphate -> white precipitate of
2 & 3 is HCl + sodium carbonate -> gas produced = CO2
2 & 4 is HCl + copper sulphate -> no visible reaction
3 & 4 is sodium carbonate + copper sulphate -> blue precipitate of
all plausible, so you are correct.
You could write out the equations for each, apart from the no reaction, if you wanted to make clear what was happening.
 
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I see, cheers!
 

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