Identifying Freefall: Analyzing Graphs for Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around identifying the points of freefall for a ball tossed in the air, based on graphs of displacement, velocity, and acceleration obtained from a motion detector. Participants are analyzing the conditions under which the ball is considered to be in freefall, particularly focusing on the acceleration graph.

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  • One participant suggests that freefall occurs when the acceleration graph is between two maxima points, while another believes it spans from the beginning of the first slope increase to the last slope decrease. Questions are raised about the interpretation of the acceleration graph and the significance of constant acceleration values.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the acceleration graph. Some guidance has been provided regarding the conditions for freefall, particularly concerning the value of acceleration at 9.81 m/s².

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings about the graphs and the definitions of freefall, with specific references to the markings on the acceleration graph and the effects of other forces acting on the ball.

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So I am doing my lab, when I realize that I am not sure where the freefall occurs. I collect the data for a ball tossed in the air, and using a vernier motion detector, I found the graphs for displacement, velocity and acceleration (attached). second peak)


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I figured that the point where the ball was in freefall was when the acceleration graph was between the two maxima points, as marked on the graph, because this is where the only force that acts on the ball is gravity at those points. My partner on the other hand disagreed, and said that it is in freefall from the beginning of the first slope increase to the last slope decrease (at the beginning of the first peak to the end of the second peak (where it returns to become an unchanged acceleration after the ball has landed).
Which one of us is correct and why?
 

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The body is in free fall as soon as it is not attached to or resting on anything.
 
komender said:
I figured that the point where the ball was in freefall was when the acceleration graph was between the two maxima points, as marked on the graph, because this is where the only force that acts on the ball is gravity at those points. My partner on the other hand disagreed, and said that it is in freefall from the beginning of the first slope increase to the last slope decrease (at the beginning of the first peak to the end of the second peak (where it returns to become an unchanged acceleration after the ball has landed).
Which one of us is correct and why?
It's unclear as to what you are saying. What maxima points on which graph? If you mean the area marked off in grey and with brackets, that's not quite correct.
 
I meant the bottom graph, the acceleration vs. time graph. It is the one that is marked off in grey. Does it mean that its in free fall when the acceleration is 9.81, i.e when the curve of the a/t graph is a constant?
 
komender said:
I meant the bottom graph, the acceleration vs. time graph. It is the one that is marked off in grey.
The peaks represent the max acceleration when the ball is being launched and stopped--the result of other forces besides gravity.

Does it mean that its in free fall when the acceleration is 9.81, i.e when the curve of the a/t graph is a constant?
Yes, when the acceleration is -9.81 or so.
 
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