Identifying the type/form for a Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around identifying the type of a given differential equation, specifically whether it is separable, linear, exact, homogeneous, or Bernoulli. The equation in question is (2x+y+1)y'=1.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about the classification of the differential equation, with some ruling out homogeneous and exact forms. There is discussion about the potential for the equation to be linear, but concerns are raised regarding the presence of y in the term p(x). Some participants suggest that a change of variable might render the equation separable.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the classification of the equation and exploring different approaches. There is a recognition of the need to understand the Derive program better, and while some believe they can solve the equation, they express concerns about the efficiency of using computer input for this problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the assignment is focused on learning to use the Derive program effectively, which may influence their approach to solving the differential equation.

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Homework Statement


For the following Differential Equation, identify the type(separable, linear, exact, homogeneous, Bernoulli), then obtain a general solution with DERIVE

(2x+y+1)y'=1

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I'm fairly certain that this is not a homogeneous or exact, but I cannot figure out which other form it could fit with.

I thought possibly linear, but only ended up with y' - 1/(2x+y+1)=0. I don't think p(x) can contain y so that would not fit the linear form. I think I need to rearrange some terms but I'm not entirely sure.
 
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Dick said:
Right, not homogeneous and not exact. Your equation contains a yy' term. That makes in nonlinear. What else is there in your list?

The assignment is to learn how to use the Derive program properly, so I could easily use the "any first order DE" command to obtain a general solution, but that defeats the whole purpose.

At the moment I only know how to solve for separable, linear, exact, homogeneous, and bernoulli.
 
Canaldigger said:
The assignment is to learn how to use the Derive program properly, so I could easily use the "any first order DE" command to obtain a general solution, but that defeats the whole purpose.

At the moment I only know how to solve for separable, linear, exact, homogeneous, and bernoulli.

It looks to me like it's none of those. But I think it would become separable after a change of variable.
 
Dick said:
It looks to me like it's none of those. But I think it would become separable after a change of variable.
Yeah, I just noticed that the first part is in Ax+By+c form so I think reduction to seperable variables will work.

I pretty sure I can solve it now, but the problem seems pointless for computer input, since I could solve it faster by hand.
 

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