If a charged particle is released from rest....

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric potential at a point and determining the final speed of a charged particle released from rest in an electric field. The subject area includes concepts from electrostatics and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the electric potential and the final speed of a charged particle using relevant equations. Some participants question the calculations and the comparison of the particle's speed to that of a bullet, while others suggest re-evaluating the manipulation of equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify calculations and address potential errors. Some participants express uncertainty about the small magnitude of the calculated speed compared to typical velocities, while others affirm the correctness of the calculations and the small value of potential energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of unit conversions and the implications of small charge values on the results. There are references to personal circumstances affecting participation, but these do not impact the technical discussion.

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Homework Statement



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A) Calculate the electric potential at point A.

B) If a small charged particle with a mass m=5.0 mg and charge q=7.0 nC is released from rest at point A, what will be its final speed vf

Homework Equations


V=Kq/r
Uelec=qV
Uelec=1/2mv2

The Attempt at a Solution


A) I calculated V for each point.

V=(Kq1/r1)+(Kq2/r2)+(Kq3/r3)
V=[(9x109)(2x10-9)/0.03]+[(9x109)(2x10-9)/0.04]+[(9x109)(2x10-9)/0.05]
V=600+450+360
V=1410

For part A, I converted all my nanocoulombs (nC) to Coulombs (C), as well as my centimeters (cm) to meters (m) before plugging them into my equation.

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B) In order to calculate velocity (v), I need to calculate potential energy (Uelec).
Uelec=qV
Uelec=(7x10-9)(1410)
Uelec=9.87x10-6

Again, I convert the 7.0 nC into Coulombs for the 1st half of part B

Now I solved for velocity (v) after converting mass from mg to kg:
Uelec=1/2mv2
9.87x10-6=1/2(5x10-6)(v2)
v2=1/2(5x10-6)(9.87x10-6)
v2=2.4675x10-11
I then took the square root of both sides
v=5x10-6 m/s

It's asking for an assessment of the problem. "How does the velocity compare with a typical bullet's velocity, vbullet=120 m/s?"

I'm not sure there is even anything there to compare. With the velocity of the particle at v=0.000005 m/s, and the velocity of a typical bullet at v=120 m/s, the particle is substantially slower than the average bullet. So I must be doing something wrong when there is nothing there to compare.
 
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Jus10 said:
9.87x10-6=1/2(5x10-6)(v2)
v2=1/2(5x10-6)(9.87x10-6)
There is an error going from the first line to the second.
 
ah. This is where my math skills are starting to show.

It appears I went the hard route and attempted to put the v2 on the left side the "=" when it could've remained on the right and rather move the 2.5x10-6 to the left.

If I were to manipulate the equation in this fashion:
9.87x10-6=1/2(5x10-6)(v2)
9.87x10-6=2.5x10-6(v2)

then divide both sides by 2.5x10-6:
9.87x10-6/2.5x10-6=v2
3.948=v2

Take the square root of both sides:
v=1.99 m/s

That still seems like an extremely small number to be comparing to a much larger number. Does it not?
 
I think your answer is correct. Note that the value of the initial potential energy is small.
 
I apologize for the late reply. My truck's oil cooler o rings started leaking profusely and I had to rebuild my oil cooler.

I really appreciate both your help. TSny, when you say the value of the potential energy is small, are you referring to the 7.0 nC charge for the charged particle moving from point A?
 
I apologize for the late reply. My truck's oil cooler o rings started leaking profusely and I had to rebuild my oil cooler.

Never mind. I answered my own question by going back and looking through my answer, realizing I calculated the potential energy.

Anyways, thanks again everyone. I really appreciate the guidance.
 

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