If space is not continuous, then is calculus wrong?

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The discussion explores the implications of space potentially being quantized rather than continuous, questioning the applicability of calculus in such a scenario. Participants argue that while calculus is a powerful approximation tool for describing physical phenomena, it may not accurately represent reality at very small scales if space is discrete. They emphasize that calculus itself is not "wrong," but rather a useful mathematical framework that may need to be adapted or replaced for certain applications. The conversation also touches on the historical context of calculus development, highlighting its origins in solving physical problems. Ultimately, the relationship between mathematics and the physical world remains a complex and unresolved topic.
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lugita15 said:
\mathbb Z is definitely not the intersection of all the hereditary sets containing 1; \mathbb N is a hereditary set containing 1, but it doesn't contain the rest of the integers. And the interval \left[1,\infty\right) is a hereditary set containing 1, so \mathbb N is not the only hereditary set containing 1.
Got it. I just didn't follow your directions the first time around. I didn't stare at it long enough.


Anyhow, we are getting quite far afield from the OP. Then again, the original post represented a misconception that was dealt with in the first few posts of this thread. Whether space is discrete or continuous has nothing to do with the validity of calculus. Or the reals for that matter.
 
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  • #92
Lugita, thank you for these clear and handy explanations.
 
  • #93
Here is another way to look at the question
(This was inspired by another recent thread)

If we roll a die n times the probability of a specific sequence is

{P_n} = {\left( {\frac{1}{6}} \right)^n}

Now let n tend to infinity

{\left[ {{P_n}} \right]_{n \to \infty }} = \left( {\frac{1}{6}} \right)_{n \to \infty }^n = 0

That is the probability of any particular sequence becomes vanishingly small.

Yet we assert that if we add all of these up we get a finite total.

\sum\limits_{n = 1}^\infty {\left( {{P_n}} \right)} = 1

Which is essentially the same process as the probabilisitc calculation/view in quantum mechanics.
 
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