If T is diagonalizable then is restriction operator diagonalizable?

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The discussion centers on the diagonalizability of the restriction operator ##T_W## when the linear operator ##T## is diagonalizable on a vector space ##V##. Participants explore the necessity of the assumption that the subspace ##W## is invariant under ##T## for the theorem regarding the diagonalizability of ##T_W## to hold, delving into definitions and implications of minimal polynomials in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the theorem states if ##T## is diagonalizable and ##W## is invariant under ##T##, then the restriction operator ##T_W## is also diagonalizable, but questions the necessity of the invariance condition.
  • Another participant argues that if ##W## is not ##T##-invariant, the matrix representation of ##T_W## would not be square, complicating the notion of diagonalizability.
  • A further contribution emphasizes that diagonalizability is defined for linear maps where the codomain matches the domain, suggesting that without invariance, the restriction does not qualify as a proper map.
  • One participant challenges the idea that diagonalizability could be independent of matrix representation, asserting that the minimal polynomial's properties depend on the operator's domain and codomain alignment.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on the minimal polynomial's definition, concluding that while ##m_T(T_W) = 0## for any subspace, the concept of a minimal polynomial for ##T_W## is not applicable if ##W## is not invariant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of the invariance condition for the diagonalizability of the restriction operator. While some acknowledge the importance of the invariance for defining the minimal polynomial, others question whether diagonalizability could still hold without it, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the definition of diagonalizability and the minimal polynomial's applicability is contingent on the relationship between the operator's domain and codomain, which introduces limitations in the discussion.

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Does minimal polynomial zero out the linear operator restricted to any subspace?
The usual theorem is talking about the linear operator being restricted to an invariant subspace:
Let ##T## be a diagonalizable linear operator on the ##n##-dimensional vector space ##V##, and let ##W## be a subspace of ##V## which is invariant under ##T##. Prove that the restriction operator ##T_W## is diagonalizable.​
I had no problem understanding its proof, it appears here for example: https://math.stackexchange.com/ques...-t-w-is-diagonalizable-if-t-is-diagonalizable However, I had difficulty understanding why we needed the assumption that ## W ## is ##T##-invariant, I mean - If ## m_T(x) ## is the minimal polynomial of ##T## so ## m_T(T)=0 ## and thus for any subspace ## W \subseteq V ## ( not necessarily ## T##-invariant ) ## m_T(T_W) =0 ##; so why in the above theorem it was necessary for ## W \subseteq V ## to be ## T ##-invariant?
 
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If W is not T-invariant, then the matrix representation of T_W is not square: it must include additional rows to account for the part of T_W(W) which is not in W. In what sense is this non-square matrix "diagonalizable"?

This theory is defined for linear maps T: V \to V where the codomain is the same as the domain, rather than some different space. A restriction of T: V \to V to a subspace W \subset V will only qualify as such a map if we have T_W: W \to W, ie. W is T-invariant.
 
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pasmith said:
If W is not T-invariant, then the matrix representation of T_W is not square: it must include additional rows to account for the part of T_W(W) which is not in W. In what sense is this non-square matrix "diagonalizable"?

This theory is defined for linear maps T: V \to V where the codomain is the same as the domain, rather than some different space. A restriction of T: V \to V to a subspace W \subset V will only qualify as such a map if we have T_W: W \to W, ie. W is T-invariant.
Although it makes sense that the matrix representation of a diagonalizable operator should be square matrix, I still don't see how this knowledge is necessary for proving the theorem for non-invariant subspace since a linear operator is also called diagonalizable iff its minimal polynomial decomposes to distinct linear factors of multiplicity 1 - this theorem shows the definition of diagonalizability is independent of a matrix representation, thus the minimal polynomial of T restricted to some arbitrary subspace will still divide the minimal polynomial of T itself which is composed of different linear factors of multiplicity 1 thus the minimal polynomial of the restriction will also be composed of different linear factors of multiplicity 1, hence T restricted to some subspace will still be diagonal ( regardless of the subspace's invariance ); so I still don't see how the knowledge that the subspace should be invariant is required to prove the above theorem.
 
Ok, I think I understand fully now what you have said.
The minimal polynomial is defined as the minimal polynomial which zeros out a square matrix.
The minimal polynomial is also defined for linear transformations whose domain is the same as the co-domain ( i.e. ## T: V \to V ## ) as the minimal polynomial which zeros such linear transformation.

So although it is true that ## m_T(T_W) =0 ## for arbitrary subspace ## W \subseteq V ##, it is undefined to talk about a minimal polynomial of ## T_W ## if ## W## is not ##T##-invariant since it isn't true that the domain is equal to the co-domain.

Am I correct?
 

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