If ##V(x)## is an even function then the energy eigenfunc....

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The discussion revolves around the properties of energy eigenfunctions in quantum mechanics, specifically when the potential function, ##V(x)##, is even. The original poster attempts to demonstrate that energy eigenfunctions can be expressed as either even or odd functions based on the symmetry of the potential.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definitions and properties of energy eigenfunctions and wavefunctions, questioning the distinction between them. There is discussion on how to handle the symmetry of the potential and the implications for the wavefunctions in different regions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting to analyze the solutions for positive and negative values of ##x## separately. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the notation used for odd and even eigenfunctions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential's symmetry and question whether it must be piecewise defined. There is a focus on ensuring that the wavefunctions maintain the necessary properties across the entire domain.

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Homework Statement


If ##V(x)## is an even function [i.e. ##V(-x)=V(x)##], then the energy eigenfunctions ##\phi_E(x)## can always be taken to be either even or odd. i.e. show ##\psi_{odd}(x)\equiv\frac{\phi_E(x)-\phi_E(-x)}{2}## and ##\psi_{even}(x)\equiv\frac{\phi_E(x)+\phi_E(-x)}{2}##. The question is from Here

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##[-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2}+V(x)]\phi_E(x)=E\phi_E(x)##

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The even wave function can be described by
$$
[-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2}+V(x)]\phi_E(x)=E\phi_E(x)-----(1)
$$
And the odd wave function can be described by
$$
[-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2}{\partial (-x)^2}+V(-x)]\phi_E(-x)=E\phi_E(-x)=[-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2}+V(x)]\phi_E(-x)=E\phi_E(-x)---(2)$$

Now adding (1) & (2) I obtain
$$
[-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2}+V(x)][\phi_E(x)+\phi_E(-x)]=E[\phi_E(x)+\phi_E(-x)]
$$

Unfortunately I can't seem to see where to go from here. Also what exactly is the difference between the energy eigenstates ##\phi_E## and wavefunction ##\psi##?
 
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Last question first: all energy eigenstates are described by an energy eigenfunction.
They are solutions to ##\hat H\phi_E = E\phi_E## ... i.e. it is an eigenfunction of the hamiltonian operator.
All energy eigenfunctions are wavefunctions, but not all wavefunctions are energy eigenfunctions.
i.e. ##\psi = c_1\phi_1 + c_2\phi_2## is a wavefunction that is not an energy eigenfunction (..for ##c_1,c_2\neq 0##).

In your setup you have used the same notation to refer to two different eigenfunctions ... one odd and one even.
You should start with definitions ... the potential and wavefunctions will be peicewise. Take care to keep track of the peices.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
In your setup you have used the same notation to refer to two different eigenfunctions ... one odd and one even.
You should start with definitions ... the potential and wavefunctions will be peicewise. Take care to keep track of the peices.
Hmm if the potential is symmetric is symmetric will it not just be a ##V(x)## everywhere?

Edit: Perhaps that isn't the best way of stating what I'm trying to say. I don't see why the potential will be piecewise is what I'm trying to say
 
Any potential is V(x) everywhere, that is what V(x) means.
You need to work out how to handle the distinction.
Try writing out what you know for x>0 first, assume that ##\phi## is a solution to that; then try it for x<0 ... in order for ##\phi## to also be a solution in this case, what property must it have?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Any potential is V(x) everywhere, that is what V(x) means.
You need to work out how to handle the distinction.
Try writing out what you know for x>0 first, assume that ##\phi## is a solution to that; then try it for x<0 ... in order for ##\phi## to also be a solution in this case, what property must it have?

x>0 is ##-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2 \psi(x)}{\partial x^2}+V(x)\psi(x)=E\psi(x)##, if ##\phi## is a solution then we have ##[-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2}+V(x)]\phi(x)=E\phi(x)##, for x<0 do you want me to use ##x\to -x##?

Edit: I understand now, the next step was to do (1)-(2) and then to observe that (1)+(2) is an even function and (1)-(2) is an odd function.
 
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That would work. Well done.
 
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