Finding the parameters for Harmonic Oscillator solutions

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The discussion revolves around finding the parameter \(\alpha\) for the Harmonic Oscillator solution \(\Psi(x)=A x e^{-\alpha x^2}\) using the Schrödinger equation. Participants are exploring the implications of the equation and the conditions under which it holds true.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of evaluating the equation at \(x=0\) to derive \(\alpha\) and question whether this approach is valid given that the equation should hold for all \(x\). There is also mention of grouping terms to form a polynomial and the implications of polynomial coefficients being zero.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the polynomial nature of the equation and the uniqueness of \(\alpha\) and \(E\). Some participants express clarity on the reasoning after engaging with the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is an acknowledgment that the equation must be satisfied for all \(x\), raising questions about the assumptions made during the solution process. The energy level of the oscillator is noted to correspond to the highest power in the solution.

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Homework Statement



Using the Schrödinger equation find the parameter \alpha of the Harmonic Oscillator solution \Psi(x)=A x e^{-\alpha x^2}

Homework Equations



-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\,\frac{\partial^2 \Psi(x)}{\partial x^2} + \frac{m \omega^2 x^2}{2}\Psi(x)=E\Psi(x)

E=\hbar\omega(n+\frac{1}{2})

The Attempt at a Solution



Using the Schrödinger equation we have arrive at

-2\alpha (2x^2\alpha-3)+\frac{m^2\omega^2x^2}{\hbar^2} = \frac{2m}{\hbar^2}E

If I make x=0 I obtain

\alpha = \frac{m\omega}{2\hbar}

using the information that the energy level of the oscillator is the same as the highest power in the solution, meaning E=3\hbar\omega/2.

Now, my problem with this solution is the need to make x=0 to arrive at it. I know that the equation holds for every x, so it is justifiable to consider the origin. The thing is, however, that shouldn't I be able to solve the equation without this assumption? Shouldn't it be independent of x?

Thank you very much.
 
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gabu said:
Using the Schrödinger equation we have arrive at

-2\alpha (2x^2\alpha-3)+\frac{m^2\omega^2x^2}{\hbar^2} = \frac{2m}{\hbar^2}E
This equation must be satisfied for all ##x##. This can be true only for one specific value of ##\alpha## and one specific value of ##E##.

Group together terms of like powers in ##x## to form a polynomial in ##x##. Use the fact that if a polynomial in ##x## is equal to zero for all values of ##x## in some finite domain, then each coefficient in the polynomial must be zero.
 
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gabu said:
Using the Schrödinger equation find the parameter αα\alpha of the Harmonic Oscillator solution Ψ(x)=Axe−αx2Ψ(x)=Axe−αx2\Psi(x)=A x e^{-\alpha x^2}
This is actually the first excited state of a 1-D quantum harmonic oscillator having energy 3/2ħω
Where α is mω/2ħ
 
TSny said:
Hello.

This equation must be satisfied for all ##x##. This can be true only for one specific value of ##\alpha## and one specific value of ##E##.

Group together terms of like powers in ##x## to form a polynomial in ##x##. Use the fact that if a polynomial in ##x## is equal to zero for all values of ##x## in some finite domain, then each coefficient in the polynomial must be zero.

Oh, I can see now. Thank you very much.
 

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