If you halve the radius of a planet what happens to the volume/mass/density ?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of changing the radius of a planet on its volume, mass, and density, particularly in the context of gravitational acceleration. Participants explore the relationships between these physical properties using Newton's equation of gravitation.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of halving the radius of a planet and its effects on gravitational acceleration, mass, and density. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between radius, mass, and gravitational pull, with references to specific equations.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between the radius of a planet and its gravitational effects, while others have raised questions about the clarity of terms used in the discussion. There is a mix of exploratory dialogue and attempts to clarify concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is a note regarding the distinction between changing the radius of the planet itself versus changing the radius of an object's distance from the planet, which is central to the discussion. Additionally, some participants indicate that the original poster is studying for a test rather than completing homework.

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If you halve the radius of a planet.. what happens to the volume/mass/density ??

Okay so g on Earth is about 9.8

I know that Mass = Density X Volume... so if you double the radius you quarter the "g" ?

What if you double the density and halve the radius.. can you please show me clearly using Newtons equation of gravitation what happens to "g" ?

Help is very appreciated! Thanks in advance!
 
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Is this homework? You need to show your attempts at solutions.


Note: for clarity, it will be important to distinguish between your uses of "radius".

Changing the radius of the planet will have a dramatically different result than changing the radius of (an) object's distance from the planet.

Doubling the radius of the planet itself will increase its mass (and therefore its gravitational pull) eight-fold.
Conversely, doubling the radius of an object('s distance) from the planet will quarter the gravitational pull.

And these two are not mutually exclusive. Simply standing on a planet with a doubled radius involves both of the above, so the net effect is (1/4 of 8 =) 2x gravity.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Is this homework? You need to show your attempts at solutions.


Note: for clarity, it will be important to distinguish between your uses of "radius".

Changing the radius of the planet will have a dramatically different result than changing the radius of (an) object's distance from the planet.

Doubling the radius of the planet itself will increase its mass (and therefore its gravitational pull) eight-fold.
Conversely, doubling the radius of an object('s distance) from the planet will quarter the gravitational pull.

And these two are not mutually exclusive. Simply standing on a planet with a doubled radius involves both of the above, so the net effect is (1/4 of 8 =) 2x gravity.

no this isn't homework... its studying for a test. I ended up with the right answer in the exam today anyways. your answer didnt help me much, but thanks for the input anyway.
 


Yehia11 said:
Okay so g on Earth is about 9.8

I know that Mass = Density X Volume... so if you double the radius you quarter the "g" ?

What if you double the density and halve the radius.. can you please show me clearly using Newtons equation of gravitation what happens to "g" ?

Help is very appreciated! Thanks in advance!

Okay sure, let's call the mass of the Earth [tex]M_{e}[/tex] and mass [tex]R_{e}[/tex]

We can write the mass of the Earth interms of it's density as you rightly said (density*volume, assuming the Earth is spherical);

[tex]M_{e} = \rho \frac{4}{3} \pi R_{e} ^3[/tex]

Note this is ONLY for the surface of the planet

[tex]g_{e} = \frac{\rho \frac{4}{3} \pi R_{e} ^3 G}{R_{e} ^2} = \rho \frac{4}{3} \pi R_{e} G[/tex]

Now you can make your conclusions from here
 
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Yehia11 said:
no this isn't homework... its studying for a test.
Same thing. (The key is that we can guide you but not tell you.)
 

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