I'm getting two different answers for the atomic radius of iridium

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the varying reported values for the atomic radius of iridium, with participants exploring the reasons behind these discrepancies. The scope includes theoretical considerations, measurement methods, and the implications of different definitions of atomic radius.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes finding values of 1.34, 1.35, and 1.36 pm for the atomic radius of iridium, questioning their correctness.
  • Another participant suggests that the atomic radius is not a fixed value and can vary based on the definition used and the measurement method, highlighting the lack of a sharp boundary for atoms.
  • A participant expresses confusion over the existence of multiple answers, referencing discrepancies found in sources like Wikipedia.
  • One post provides a calculation for the atomic radius based on a body-centered cubic (BCC) structure, arriving at a radius of approximately 2.19 x 10-8 cm.
  • Another participant questions the purpose of needing the atomic radius, suggesting that different definitions may be more suitable depending on the intended use.
  • A later post reiterates the initial concern about the varying answers, indicating that teachers have provided similar values (1.34 pm, 1.35 pm, and 1.36 pm) and referencing a textbook solution that states 1.36 pm as the answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single value for the atomic radius of iridium, with multiple competing views and reported values remaining in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the dependence of atomic radius values on definitions and measurement methods, indicating that the variations may stem from these factors rather than a single correct answer.

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I'm getting too different answers for atomic radius of iridium. I've already found 1.34 x 10-8 but all shows different answers. I mean like 1.34, 1.35, 1.36... Are those correct?
 
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I would say they are quite similar. The value of the atomic radius is something that depends on the way you define it (atom doesn't have a sharp edge) and the measurement method (and let's not forget about the measurement accuracy).
 
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However, are those correct? or is there only an answer? It seems like different on wikipedia and others.
 
For BCC;

a = 4r/√3

mass of Ba atom = 137.327 g/mol

mass of 1 atom = 137.327 g / 6.022 x 1023 = 2.28 x 10-22 g

density of bulk = density of unit cell

total no. of Ba atoms in BCC = 2 atom

mass of 2 atom = 2 x 2.28 x 10-22 g = 4.56 x 10-22 g

mass of atoms / volume of unit cell = 3.51 g/cm3

3.51 g/cm³ = 4.56 x 10-22 g /a3

a3 = 1.299 x 10-22 cm3

a = 5.06 x 10-8 cm

we have a = 4r/√3 for BCC

r = 5.06 x 10-8 cm x √3 / 4 = 2.19 x 10-8 cm
 
Why do you need the radius for? Depending on how you are planning to use it, a particular definition of atomic radii may be more suitable for you than the others.
 
Bobs said:
I'm getting too different answers for atomic radius of iridium. I've already found 1.34 x 10-8 but all shows different answers. I mean like 1.34, 1.35, 1.36... Are those correct?

It is hard to understand your question. Are you getting "two" different answers or "too" different answers and from where are you getting answers? What methods are you using? Who is "all"?
 
All my teachers had found anohter answer for this question (1.34pm, 1.35pm and 1.36pm). And yes, there are too many different answers. I'm checking If that's wrong or not. However, it seems correct. Now let's look at textbook solution, it says that the answer is 1.36pm.
 

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