I'm in a talent show tomorrow. Show me a cool math proof.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around suggestions for interesting mathematical proofs suitable for a talent show audience. Participants explore various proofs and concepts, considering their appeal and accessibility to a general audience.

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  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest proofs of well-known theorems, such as the Pythagorean Theorem, the infinitude of primes, and Euler's identity, but express concerns about their coolness or audience engagement.
  • The Monty Hall Problem is proposed as a non-intuitive example, though some participants note that its explanation may be complex for an audience.
  • A simple Diophantine equation, specifically a^b = b^a, is mentioned as fun and easy to understand, with the added benefit of being less familiar to advanced audience members.
  • One participant questions the value of reproducing a proof from the forum in a talent show context, suggesting it may not demonstrate originality or talent.
  • Another participant humorously suggests entertaining the audience with non-proofs of true theorems, such as a method for polynomial division.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on what constitutes a "cool" proof and how accessible different proofs are to an audience. There is no consensus on a single proof or approach that would be ideal for the talent show.

Contextual Notes

Some suggestions may depend on the audience's mathematical background and familiarity with specific concepts, which remains unspecified.

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I thought about doing a proof of the Pythagorean Theorem, a proof that the harmonic series is unbounded, a proof that e^π > π^e, a proof that e^(b*i) = cos(b) + i*sin(b), a proof that √2 is irrational, but honestly, none of those are cool enough.

Please show me a cool proof that an ordinary audience could understand.
 
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Maybe a proof of Euclid's theorem of the infinitude of primes, or a proof of Euler's identity..?
 
Monty Hall Problem - its not intuitive and a lot of people (even including statisticians) can doubt the results even due to its counter intuitiveness
 
chiro said:
Monty Hall Problem - its not intuitive and a lot of people (even including statisticians) can doubt the results even due to its counter intuitiveness

hmmmm ... the only problem with the Monty Hall Problem is that the setup is hard to explain. You have to explain to rules of the game 4 or 5 times before the audience understands how it works.
 
Jamin2112 said:
hmmmm ... the only problem with the Monty Hall Problem is that the setup is hard to explain. You have to explain to rules of the game 4 or 5 times before the audience understands how it works.

What kind of audience are you speaking to?
 
 
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Dickfore said:


that is really pretty cool
 
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describe 4 dimensional spheres?
 
mathwonk said:
describe 4 dimensional spheres?

no u
 
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A simple Diophantine equation? a^b=b^a is fun, and pretty easy to understand. It also has the attribute of not being part of any curriculum, so even the advanced audience members won't know the answer until you prove it. (unless they are fast)
 
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TylerH said:
A simple Diophantine equation? a^b=b^a is fun, and pretty easy to understand. It also has the attribute of not being part of any curriculum, so even the advanced audience members won't know the answer until you prove it. (unless they are fast)

is there someway to solve this algorithmically? without just seeing that it's 2 and 4?
 
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How does reproducing a proof given by someone on this forum show that you have talent? I mean, doesn't this defeat the purpose of a talent show?
 
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Landau said:
How does reproducing a proof given by someone on this forum show that you have talent? I mean, doesn't this defeat the purpose of a talent show?

> Implying that talent and originality are the same thing.
 
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You could entertain them with non-proofs of true theorems. One of my favorites is the "long division" method proving the remainder of a polynomial p(x) upon division by (x - a ) is p(a)

Proof
Code:
         p
      _______________
(x-a)/  p(x)
        p(x) - p(a)
           __________

                p(a)
 

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