I'm interested in physics, what should I learn?

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The discussion centers around a high school student's journey into physics, seeking guidance on how to transition from high school studies to undergraduate-level physics. The conversation touches on various textbooks, foundational knowledge, and recommendations for further reading.

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  • One participant notes the student's advanced start with Goldstein's Classical Mechanics, suggesting that it is typically a graduate-level text and questions how the student understands it without prior basic physics knowledge.
  • Another participant recommends starting with introductory physics courses that cover fundamental topics like forces, motion, and energy before tackling advanced subjects.
  • Some participants suggest reading non-fiction books about famous scientists to motivate and guide the student's interests in various areas of physics.
  • There is a suggestion that the student might consider engineering studies if they are not deeply interested in advanced physics topics.
  • One participant mentions that if the student is using Goldstein, they should consider Jackson for electromagnetism instead of Griffiths, which is viewed as more suitable for undergraduate studies.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of starting with a standard first-year physics book to build foundational knowledge.

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Participants express a mix of support for the student's current studies while also highlighting the need for foundational knowledge. There is no consensus on the best approach to learning physics, with differing opinions on textbook choices and study paths.

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Some participants question the appropriateness of the student's current textbook choices given their stated level of understanding. There is also uncertainty about the best sequence of topics and resources for learning physics effectively.

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Let me Introduced myself at first,
I'm a high school student in Hong Kong. I've finished all I need to learn in high school.
Also, I have lots of time to read books.
My school teacher distributes me an empty classroom so that I can do my things there when I come to school.

I'm interested in physics, but I don't really know about physics.
For math, I know some calculus and linear algebra.
And I'm reading Classical Mechanics, Goldstein.
I've finished chapter1-6 and I did every exercise on it, also understanding each solution.
I don't know if I'm doing the right thing.
I want some guidance to help me start learning undergraduate physics.
 
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It looks like you're already making a very good start. I'm sure you'll get some further answers from some of the other members here. Welcome aboard the Physics Forums.
 
Yow, you are way ahead in your studies, good work!
You say you don’t know Physics, but a good understanding of Mechanics requires an in depth knowledge of Physics. Goldstein’s book in fact is an advanced version of Mechanics for undergrads.
At a University for Physics or Engineering, you start off taking calculus based or algebra based introductory Physics (take the calc based version) studying forces, motion, energy, etc., including basic Mechanics, then proceed to electricity, magnetism , waves optics, and modern physics if you so choose. Mechanics (statics and dynamics) usually isn’t taken until your 2nd year. Stuff like Lagrangian and Hamiltonian is rather advanced. I don’t know how you are getting a good understanding of Mechanics without first studying basic Physics and Calculus!
You might want to consider Engineering study instead of Physics, unless you are really into the advanced topics of Physics like Quantum Mechanics, Astrophysics, Cosmology, Nuclear, etc.
Best of luck, I commend you for your efforts!
 
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Bedfordshire said:
Let me Introduced myself at first,
I'm a high school student in Hong Kong. I've finished all I need to learn in high school.
Also, I have lots of time to read books.
My school teacher distributes me an empty classroom so that I can do my things there when I come to school.

I'm interested in physics, but I don't really know about physics.
For math, I know some calculus and linear algebra.
And I'm reading Classical Mechanics, Goldstein.
I've finished chapter1-6 and I did every exercise on it, also understanding each solution.
I don't know if I'm doing the right thing.
I want some guidance to help me start learning undergraduate physics.
Did you do the exercises on your own, without referring to any outside help or looking at solutions? Or did you look at solution and replicated it?
 
Welcome to the PF. :smile:
Bedfordshire said:
I'm interested in physics, but I don't really know about physics.
Congrats on your interest in science, and your great start on your studies. In addition to studying various textbooks, I'd recommend reading some interesting non-fiction books about and by famous scientists, to help motivate your studies and interests. You may also find that you are more interested in some areas of science than others, based on some of this reading. Here are a few books that I really enjoyed (for various reasons)...

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berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

Congrats on your interest in science, and your great start on your studies. In addition to studying various textbooks, I'd recommend reading some interesting non-fiction books about and by famous scientists, to help motivate your studies and interests. You may also find that you are more interested in some areas of science than others, based on some of this reading. Here are a few books that I really enjoyed (for various reasons)...

Thanks for your reply!
I will try to read some popular-science books later.
 
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sysprog said:
I think that Prof. Powers' thermo notes are well worth reading.
https://www3.nd.edu/~powers/ame.20231/notes.pdf
Thanks for sharing.
I haven't finished a full lecture note on thermodynamics yet.
I'm reading Griffiths's Introduction to electrodynamics in recent:biggrin:
 
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Bedfordshire said:
And I'm reading Classical Mechanics, Goldstein.
Bedfordshire said:
I'm reading Griffiths's Introduction to electrodynamics in recent:biggrin:
If you're using Goldstein for classical mechanics, you should be using Jackson instead of Griffiths for electromagnetism. :cool:

In the US, Goldstein and Jackson are common graduate-school textbooks, i.e. MS/PhD level, whereas Griffiths is merely undergraduate-level.
 
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jtbell said:
If you're using Goldstein for classical mechanics, you should be using Jackson instead of Griffiths for electromagnetism. :cool:
I had heard this famous textbook on electrodynamics before!

You said that if I'm able to finish Goldstein, then I'm able to read Jackson too?

However, I want to finish my Griffiths first!
 
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Get a standard first-year physics book and start learning physics. It's as simple as that.
 
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