I'm looking for some cold propulsion possibilities

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The discussion revolves around developing a new wingsuit that integrates soaring with jet pack propulsion to enable flight for valley dwellers. Concerns are raised about the inadequacy of compressed gas for sustained thrust and the challenges of using ion thrusters due to their low thrust capabilities. The idea of utilizing negatively charged liquids or gases for propulsion is proposed, but issues regarding charge containment are highlighted. Additionally, the impracticality of storing charge and the need for effective thrust-to-weight ratios are emphasized. The conversation suggests looking into more viable propulsion methods, such as those used by Yves Rossy, as traditional wingsuits lack the necessary lift for long-distance travel.
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I am coming up with a new wing suit that combines soaring with jet pack propulsion in such a way that even valley dwellers can fly, and possibly commute in this fassion. I fear compressed gas alone will not have enough thrust for long enough.
One concept to think of is to charge a liquid/gas substance negatively, and have the repulsion of the electrons become propulsion for the aircraft (person), but how can that charge be contained without shocking the container...?
I am hesitant to try heat based propulsion because there will be no heat protection.
Help would be much appreciated ;)
 
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The thrust of an ion thruster is, I believe at the current state of the technology, far far too low for low altitude sustained flight for a payload of 200 lbs.
 
ShaneGarcia7 said:
I am coming up with a new wing suit that combines soaring with jet pack propulsion in such a way that even valley dwellers can fly, and possibly commute in this fassion. I fear compressed gas alone will not have enough thrust for long enough.
One concept to think of is to charge a liquid/gas substance negatively, and have the repulsion of the electrons become propulsion for the aircraft (person), but how can that charge be contained without shocking the container...?
I am hesitant to try heat based propulsion because there will be no heat protection.
Help would be much appreciated ;)
Compressed gas would require a thick-walled (relatively speaking) storage tank, which would defeat the purpose of propulsion.

It is impractical to storage charge.

Ion thrusters produce low thrust.

One must look at thrust to weight/mass ratios for appropriate technology.

A more practical approach would be along the lines of the Jet Man, Yves Rossy.

A wing suit is usually for gliding, or rather falling more slowly than without a wingsuit. Their is insufficient lift in a wingsuit to make it practical for long distance travel.
 
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