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The discussion revolves around the application of linear transformations, specifically projecting onto the xz-plane and rotating about the x-axis. The original poster is attempting to find the resulting coordinates of a point after applying two transformations sequentially.

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  • The original poster describes their method of applying transformation matrices to a point, expressing uncertainty about their calculations. Participants question the correctness of the matrix multiplication and the resulting coordinates.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's method, providing feedback on potential errors in matrix multiplication. There is a recognition of a mistake made by the original poster regarding the order of multiplication, and some participants express differing views on the correctness of specific components of the resulting point.

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The original poster acknowledges a mistake in their approach and indicates a willingness to follow forum guidelines in future posts. There is a suggestion that the matrices provided for the transformations are correct, but the application of these matrices to the point may have been mishandled.

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T2 projects orthogonally onto the xz-plane

T3 rotates clockwise through an angle of 3π/4 radians about the x axis

The point (-3, -4, -3) is first mapped by T2 and then T3. what are the coordinates of the resulting point?

this question is on a program call Calmaeth. My answer for this question is (-3,0,-√2/2). The program says its wrong but i have checked thoroughly many times and cannot find my mistake.

My transformation matrix for T2 is ##
\begin{pmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 1
\end{pmatrix}
## and for T3 is ##
\begin{pmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & \frac{-1}{√2} & \frac{1}{√2} \\
0 & \frac{-1}{√2} & \frac{-1}{√2}
\end{pmatrix}
##
To get the resulting standard matrix, i did T3*T2 and then multiplied this matrix by the point (-3, -4, -3) to get the resulting point.

Can anyone see where i went wrong if i did? (also to let you know, the program said my matrices for T2&T3 were correct)
 
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Your method is fine. Assuming your matrices are right, it looks like you made an error with the matrix multiplication. What did you get for ##T3 * T2##?
 
I agree with jbuniii. The "-3" and "0" are correct but I do not get -\sqrt{2}/2 as the third component when I multiply your matrices.

(As a check, rather than multiplying T3*T2 first and then multiplying that by the vector, you can multiply the vector by T2 and then multiply the result by T3.)
 
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HallsofIvy said:
The "-3" and "0" are correct
How is the "0" correct?
 
oay said:
How is the "0" correct?

Yes, only the ##-3## is correct.

Anyway, please post this in the homework forum next time! Thanks :smile:
 
Hi guys It was a rookie mistake on my part. I was doing [-3,-4,-3]*[standard matrix] . when i should have been doing [standard matrix]*##\begin{pmatrix}
-3 \\
-4 \\
-3
\end{pmatrix}##
And sorry, in the future ill post in the homework section.
 

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